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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:22pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

Leading executives of multinational corporations claim that Australia’s business-friendly reputation is at risk and parent companies could shift resources to Asian nations.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/files/2012/08/regime-uncertainty.jpg

http://www.afr.com/p/national/global_ceos_challenge_labor_6A3YDPvIvFp89c5wVYZeFL

So what is your solution

Cut wages?
Re-regulate the $?

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #16 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:41am

Gist wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

'Political uncertainty' is code for you can't trust Labor.

They've got more backflips than a Chinese gymnast.

But they've got nuthin' on Tony!

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Name one policy he's backflipped on.

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Reply #17 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:42am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

Leading executives of multinational corporations claim that Australia’s business-friendly reputation is at risk and parent companies could shift resources to Asian nations.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/files/2012/08/regime-uncertainty.jpg

http://www.afr.com/p/national/global_ceos_challenge_labor_6A3YDPvIvFp89c5wVYZeFL

So what is your solution

Cut wages?
Re-regulate the $?

Remove carbon dioxide tax, remove mining tax, reduce influence of unions, abolish Fair Work Australia. That's a good start.

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Reply #18 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:54am

The Nanny State.....

In WA the Liberal Government is planning stop and search laws that gives police the legal right to stop and search anyone regardless of weather or not they have committed a crime...Despite the fact current laws allow police the right to stop and search anyone if they have probable cause or a suspicion a crime has been committed however police are held accountable for their actions under current laws.....New laws cannot be challenged by the public and officers no longer will have to explain their actions!!!

The Howard Government introduced legislation that gives police the right to detain anyone for several weeks without charge or explanation and even if the person is innocent that have no way to appeal (ala Dr Mohammad Haneef)!!!

The NSW LNP are planning to introduce legislation that bans shooters after midnight and bans glasses from all Kings Cross venues!!!

The WA Liberal party are planning to introduce legislation that will allow police to shut down parties enter private properties without a search warrant and charge residents for any damaged caused even if the people who caused the damage where not invited guests!!!

The list of freedoms and knee jerk reactions from LNP Governments is astounding and you cretins complain about the packaging of cigarettes as some sort of invasion on freedom.....WTF???

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #20 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:17am

Kat wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

Do you feel SAFER with the police dressed and behaving like a
para-military force, or do you feel THREATENED?

Me, I feel threatened.

really?????

when I was growing up we did have a form of fear of the police.. if I was running and a copper came in sight I stopped running.. cant think why now, I just did..we were in awe of them..

now sadly the boot is on the other foot the police are maligned and I think we are lucky people still want to join the police force.,.they are almost the enemy...

we have allowed this to erode by the attitude of some magistrates and the laws in general..

kids know they cant be touched they flaunt it..how would you feel trying to stop old ladies from being mugged and bashed just to have the perp finger salute you because thats whats happening..

times have change people are taking potshots at coppers now.. they are unafraid these days.. you are just not told how many police a day go off on stress leave or injury leave we are not told.. but I can tell you you have far more police away from the job than come out of Goulburn academy

good on the cops if they can protect themselves anyway possible whilst they go about trying to keep the rest of us safe..

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #21 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:21am

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

The Nanny State.....

In WA the Liberal Government is planning stop and search laws that gives police the legal right to stop and search anyone regardless of weather or not they have committed a crime...Despite the fact current laws allow police the right to stop and search anyone if they have probable cause or a suspicion a crime has been committed however police are held accountable for their actions under current laws.....New laws cannot be challenged by the public and officers no longer will have to explain their actions!!!

The Howard Government introduced legislation that gives police the right to detain anyone for several weeks without charge or explanation and even if the person is innocent that have no way to appeal (ala Dr Mohammad Haneef)!!!

The NSW LNP are planning to introduce legislation that bans shooters after midnight and bans glasses from all Kings Cross venues!!!

The WA Liberal party are planning to introduce legislation that will allow police to shut down parties enter private properties without a search warrant and charge residents for any damaged caused even if the people who caused the damage where not invited guests!!!

The list of freedoms and knee jerk reactions from LNP Governments is astounding and you cretins complain about the packaging of cigarettes as some sort of invasion on freedom.....WTF???

Roll Eyes

the times we are living in has changed phil... we are just not told the stats these days...we have to give the power back to those that face the situation.. we now have it where the criminal has got more rights than the victim in our courts of law. its ridiculous.....

the cop is at the crime scene he sees and takes the evidence..then some lawyer twists and turns the laws.. and guess what it gets thrown out for some reason.

sorry mate I am all for law and order on our streets and if thats what it takes.. so be it.. I have not a thing to hide. I can assure you

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #22 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:23am

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

Kat wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:56am:

Do you feel SAFER with the police dressed and behaving like a
para-military force, or do you feel THREATENED?

Me, I feel threatened.

really?????

when I was growing up we did have a form of fear of the police.. if I was running and a copper came in sight I stopped running.. cant think why now, I just did..we were in awe of them..

now sadly the boot is on the other foot the police are maligned and I think we are lucky people still want to join the police force.,.they are almost the enemy...

we have allowed this to erode by the attitude of some magistrates and the laws in general..

kids know they cant be touched they flaunt it..how would you feel trying to stop old ladies from being mugged and bashed just to have the perp finger salute you because thats whats happening..

times have change people are taking potshots at coppers now.. they are unafraid these days.. you are just not told how many police a day go off on stress leave or injury leave we are not told.. but I can tell you you have far more police away from the job than come out of Goulburn academy

good on the cops if they can protect themselves anyway possible whilst they go about trying to keep the rest of us safe..

Cods, I'm not having a 'go' at the cops.

I have several mates who are cops.

Just saying that I don't feel 'safer' with para-military style cops around.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #23 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:42am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

Leading executives of multinational corporations claim that Australia’s business-friendly reputation is at risk and parent companies could shift resources to Asian nations.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/files/2012/08/regime-uncertainty.jpg

http://www.afr.com/p/national/global_ceos_challenge_labor_6A3YDPvIvFp89c5wVYZeFL

So what is your solution

Cut wages?
Re-regulate the $?

Remove carbon dioxide tax, remove mining tax, reduce influence of unions, abolish Fair Work Australia. That's a good start.

Perhaps you could take a ONE-EYED, PARTISAN viewpoint ?

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #24 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:55am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:41am:

Gist wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

'Political uncertainty' is code for you can't trust Labor.

They've got more backflips than a Chinese gymnast.

But they've got nuthin' on Tony!

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2012/06/23/rlgx7lflhl.jpg

Grin

Name one policy he's backflipped on.

Policy? You mean thought bubble don't you because Lieberals don't HAVE any policies.

But Backflip Tony backflips on a daily basis on the few thought bubbles he does have.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #25 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 9:22am

More warnings:

A landmark report by the research arm of McKinsey & Company warns that stalling productivity is a threat to Australia’s run of more than 20 years of economic growth and that it has been camouflaged by China’s voracious appetite for our coal and ore.

The report finds that labour productivity has been growing at a lacklustre 0.3 per cent a year since 2005, in stark contrast to the “golden age” of the 1990s when it was growing at 3.1 per cent… And the resources sector has been hit by higher costs and delays on mammoth projects.

To turn around productivity, the McKinsey Global Institute says, it is crucial to recommit to the microeconomic reforms that drove growth in the 1990s…

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Julia Gillard - twice selected, never elected.

We're still paying for the Whitlam Government.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #26 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 9:27am

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 9:22am:

More warnings:

A landmark report by the research arm of McKinsey & Company warns that stalling productivity is a threat to Australia’s run of more than 20 years of economic growth and that it has been camouflaged by China’s voracious appetite for our coal and ore.

The report finds that labour productivity has been growing at a lacklustre 0.3 per cent a year since 2005, in stark contrast to the “golden age” of the 1990s when it was growing at 3.1 per cent… And the resources sector has been hit by higher costs and delays on mammoth projects.

To turn around productivity, the McKinsey Global Institute says, it is crucial to recommit to the microeconomic reforms that drove growth in the 1990s…

Would they be LABORs reforms that they are talking about?
You know the reforms that gave us 18% interest rates, the recession we had to have?

Or are you going to try & play this off as 2005 - they are wrong because Howard was still PM they meant 2007
And the reforms of the 90's were after 96

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 9:37am

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:21am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:54am:

The Nanny State.....

In WA the Liberal Government is planning stop and search laws that gives police the legal right to stop and search anyone regardless of weather or not they have committed a crime...Despite the fact current laws allow police the right to stop and search anyone if they have probable cause or a suspicion a crime has been committed however police are held accountable for their actions under current laws.....New laws cannot be challenged by the public and officers no longer will have to explain their actions!!!

The Howard Government introduced legislation that gives police the right to detain anyone for several weeks without charge or explanation and even if the person is innocent that have no way to appeal (ala Dr Mohammad Haneef)!!!

The NSW LNP are planning to introduce legislation that bans shooters after midnight and bans glasses from all Kings Cross venues!!!

The WA Liberal party are planning to introduce legislation that will allow police to shut down parties enter private properties without a search warrant and charge residents for any damaged caused even if the people who caused the damage where not invited guests!!!

The list of freedoms and knee jerk reactions from LNP Governments is astounding and you cretins complain about the packaging of cigarettes as some sort of invasion on freedom.....WTF???

Roll Eyes

the times we are living in has changed phil... we are just not told the stats these days...we have to give the power back to those that face the situation.. we now have it where the criminal has got more rights than the victim in our courts of law. its ridiculous.....

the cop is at the crime scene he sees and takes the evidence..then some lawyer twists and turns the laws.. and guess what it gets thrown out for some reason.

sorry mate I am all for law and order on our streets and if thats what it takes.. so be it.. I have not a thing to hide. I can assure you

A disgracefull erosion of freedoms. If you are an completely innocent person, what right do the police have of intruding on your personal life. Sounds like russia circa 1980's.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 10:21am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:41am:

Gist wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

'Political uncertainty' is code for you can't trust Labor.

They've got more backflips than a Chinese gymnast.

But they've got nuthin' on Tony!

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2012/06/23/rlgx7lflhl.jpg

Grin

Name one policy he's backflipped on.

That's asking a bit much! FACTS from a labor supporters? Its like asking Gillard to not lie!!!

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 10:54am

gold_medal wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:41am:

Gist wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 8:03pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:50pm:

'Political uncertainty' is code for you can't trust Labor.

They've got more backflips than a Chinese gymnast.

But they've got nuthin' on Tony!

http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2012/06/23/rlgx7lflhl.jpg

Grin

Name one policy he's backflipped on.

That's asking a bit much! FACTS from a labor supporters? Its like asking Gillard to not lie!!!

Well, you actually made a fair start, but you didn't go far enough, you should have said -
That's asking a bit much! FACTS from a Politician &/or Political supporters? Its like asking a Politician to not lie!!!

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