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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77109 Gender:	Re: The Media & Abbott Reply #30 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:50pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:05pm: Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:52pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 7:01pm: i think the australian media is quite good for news. You have nothing to make a comparison on. My history and experience like he said, you have nothing ....
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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #31 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

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Reply #32 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:05pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

That's the problem, a lot of people that are not that bright about where they gain their information from and take the word of shock jocks and tabloid toads, like Piers Akerman as gospel.

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #33 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:08pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

That's the problem, a lot of people that are not that bright about where they gain their information from and take the word of shock jocks and tabloid toads, like Piers Akerman as gospel.

So what? That's their personal choice.

You are a totalitarian if you think the Government should be making those decisions for people.

Scary.

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Reply #34 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:13pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Yes Tnoy it is an insult to the core of our beliefs if people Like Bolt do not have a free reign to their dishonest racial abuse and the freedom to abuse vilify and lible who ever they like.

Well, it is a FREE press you know??? Or would you rather live in North Korea, where televisions and radios come pre-programmed to show state-run channels only - if you can afford one.

You just don't get it do you? Let's see.

For example, would you be happy if I were to get a job as a journalist for News Corp and start writing opinion pieces? Yes me, your beloved Gist. I have some small experience (believe it or not) and I can give Rupert assurances that his circulation will increase on the back of my pieces.

Mind you my stories could make smithy's example look like Sunday at a parish picnic but what they heck. It's a free press! I should be able to say what I like... and I will... I can guarantee you I will...

Of course you righties may not be impressed with what I may say. But I'm sure you would stand up for News' right to freedom from censorship. Wouldn't you??

Please let me know ASAP! I've got an application form right here all ready to send off...

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #35 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:14pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

That's the problem, a lot of people that are not that bright about where they gain their information from and take the word of shock jocks and tabloid toads, like Piers Akerman as gospel.

So what? That's their personal choice.

You are a totalitarian if you think the Government should be making those decisions for people.

Scary.

What choice? If they don't tell you it's an opinion, how do you know to turn the channel (or buy another paper etc) ? I shouldn't have to know the political persuasion of every single reporter to be able to get the news .. i just want news .. I'm happy for them to have their opinions, but keep it in the opinion coloumns and not on the front page presenting it as factual .

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #36 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:18pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

That's the problem, a lot of people that are not that bright about where they gain their information from and take the word of shock jocks and tabloid toads, like Piers Akerman as gospel.

So what? That's their personal choice.

You are a totalitarian if you think the Government should be making those decisions for people.

Scary.

And it's not about the government making decisions ... it's about truth in what they claim to represent , you write what you bloody well want to write, just don't pretend its a story, when all it's an honest representation of a story when all it is is an opinion ...... if you were a investment broker who treated his clients the way the media treats the viewing public the investment broker would be in jail .

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #37 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:19pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

So what? That's their personal choice.

You are a totalitarian if you think the Government should be making those decisions for people.

Scary.

That's not the problem!

God! Why do I have to explain every little thing to you people?

The problem is that there is little to nothing to differentiate what is fact and what is fiction in the news media. So your average Joe on the street who doesn't sit on ozpol half of every day of his wasted life like you and I do and who doesn't know what is going on will absorb the fiction as though it is fact.

Nobody has any problem with news media publishing opinion pieces by front bottoms like Bolt if that's what they choose to do. But it needs to be obvious that the contents of that article are twatspeak. That they are the completely biased opinions of a bigot.

The articles should not be published as though it is in any way FACT.

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Reply #38 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:20pm

Gist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Yes Tnoy it is an insult to the core of our beliefs if people Like Bolt do not have a free reign to their dishonest racial abuse and the freedom to abuse vilify and lible who ever they like.

Well, it is a FREE press you know??? Or would you rather live in North Korea, where televisions and radios come pre-programmed to show state-run channels only - if you can afford one.

You just don't get it do you? Let's see.

For example, would you be happy if I were to get a job as a journalist for News Corp and start writing opinion pieces? Yes me, your beloved Gist. I have some small experience (believe it or not) and I can give Rupert assurances that his circulation will increase on the back of my pieces.

Mind you my stories could make smithy's example look like Sunday at a parish picnic but what they heck. It's a free press! I should be able to say what I like... and I will... I can guarantee you I will...

Of course you righties may not be impressed with what I may say. But I'm sure you would stand up for News' right to freedom from censorship. Wouldn't you??

Please let me know ASAP! I've got an application form right here all ready to send off...

No-one would read more than 2 of your articles, just to give you a go. You would be fired within the month.

Lefties dont get ratings, they get governments to force people to read your crap.

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Reply #39 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:23pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Yes Tnoy it is an insult to the core of our beliefs if people Like Bolt do not have a free reign to their dishonest racial abuse and the freedom to abuse vilify and lible who ever they like.

Well, it is a FREE press you know??? Or would you rather live in North Korea, where televisions and radios come pre-programmed to show state-run channels only - if you can afford one.

You just don't get it do you? Let's see.

For example, would you be happy if I were to get a job as a journalist for News Corp and start writing opinion pieces? Yes me, your beloved Gist. I have some small experience (believe it or not) and I can give Rupert assurances that his circulation will increase on the back of my pieces.

Mind you my stories could make smithy's example look like Sunday at a parish picnic but what they heck. It's a free press! I should be able to say what I like... and I will... I can guarantee you I will...

Of course you righties may not be impressed with what I may say. But I'm sure you would stand up for News' right to freedom from censorship. Wouldn't you??

Please let me know ASAP! I've got an application form right here all ready to send off...

No-one would read more than 2 of your articles, just to give you a go. You would be fired within the month.

Lefties dont get ratings, they get governments to force people to read your crap.

so you respond to that, but refuse to respond to anything that resembles logical discussion ... why don't you stick to the issue? (by the way, thats my opinion)

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #40 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

No-one would read more than 2 of your articles, just to give you a go. You would be fired within the month.

Lefties dont get ratings, they get governments to force people to read your crap.

And yet all we heard during Howards rein(and we still do when one of the few negative stories on libs appear) was how baised the ABC is, how it's funding should be stripped.
You are all for government intervention when the stories aren't going your way but scream blue bloody murder when your hacks in the press are called to account.

I'm not crying because of the negative press Labors got, they deserve quite a bit of it, and thats just it you don't need to omit or make sh!t up the truth and the whole story would, although admittedly it wouldn't be as juicy or as bad, do a satisfactory job.

Remember the worm does turn and Tony if he gets the gig has alot to live up to, heaven help him if he fails.

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #42 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:30pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Yes Tnoy it is an insult to the core of our beliefs if people Like Bolt do not have a free reign to their dishonest racial abuse and the freedom to abuse vilify and lible who ever they like.

Well, it is a FREE press you know??? Or would you rather live in North Korea, where televisions and radios come pre-programmed to show state-run channels only - if you can afford one.

You just don't get it do you? Let's see.

For example, would you be happy if I were to get a job as a journalist for News Corp and start writing opinion pieces? Yes me, your beloved Gist. I have some small experience (believe it or not) and I can give Rupert assurances that his circulation will increase on the back of my pieces.

Mind you my stories could make smithy's example look like Sunday at a parish picnic but what they heck. It's a free press! I should be able to say what I like... and I will... I can guarantee you I will...

Of course you righties may not be impressed with what I may say. But I'm sure you would stand up for News' right to freedom from censorship. Wouldn't you??

Please let me know ASAP! I've got an application form right here all ready to send off...

No-one would read more than 2 of your articles, just to give you a go. You would be fired within the month.

Lefties dont get ratings, they get governments to force people to read your crap.

So you have no problem eh lolly? Cool! I've got a beauty linking Abbott to a known paedophile ring. Do you really think nobody will read it???

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #43 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:33pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:20pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Yes Tnoy it is an insult to the core of our beliefs if people Like Bolt do not have a free reign to their dishonest racial abuse and the freedom to abuse vilify and lible who ever they like.

Well, it is a FREE press you know??? Or would you rather live in North Korea, where televisions and radios come pre-programmed to show state-run channels only - if you can afford one.

You just don't get it do you? Let's see.

For example, would you be happy if I were to get a job as a journalist for News Corp and start writing opinion pieces? Yes me, your beloved Gist. I have some small experience (believe it or not) and I can give Rupert assurances that his circulation will increase on the back of my pieces.

Mind you my stories could make smithy's example look like Sunday at a parish picnic but what they heck. It's a free press! I should be able to say what I like... and I will... I can guarantee you I will...

Of course you righties may not be impressed with what I may say. But I'm sure you would stand up for News' right to freedom from censorship. Wouldn't you??

Please let me know ASAP! I've got an application form right here all ready to send off...

No-one would read more than 2 of your articles, just to give you a go. You would be fired within the month.

Lefties dont get ratings, they get governments to force people to read your crap.

I think the fact that you yourself continually read and respond to his posts proves that people will read it .. after all, most of them are smarter than you and you read it ....

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Re: The Media & Abbott
Reply #44 - Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 8:53pm:

namnugenot wrote on Aug 6^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

If you don't like what the media write don't buy their papers.
If you don't like what they say on the radio don't listen.
If you don't like what you see on the TV then watch something else, or turn it off and do something else.
If you have to worry about what everyone else reading, listening and watching then you have a problem.
It must be frustrating.

So where do I go for my news? I should be able to watch any news or a current affairs programme and know that what they are telling me is in fact the truth, and not an opinion .......

That's the problem, a lot of people that are not that bright about where they gain their information from and take the word of shock jocks and tabloid toads, like Piers Akerman as gospel.

So what? That's their personal choice.

You are a totalitarian if you think the Government should be making those decisions for people.

Scary.

No telling people how to think is the media's function, and if they do not believe tell them again and again till they do.

But that is OK when it is only the media using known and very effective brain washing techniques to put public opinion in line with their vested interests.

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