Looks like Alan jones will be lonely now because he will no longer be able to quote former climate skeptic Physics professor Richard A. Muller in his rants on radio

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http://www.tgdaily.com/general-science-brief/65049-noted-global-warming-skeptic-...

progs is so embarrassed... he really does believe in climate change but can't let others online know that as his job is to allow business maximum time to change it's money making models to allow continued maximisation of profits in the new paradigm!

Upton Sinclair wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:33pm:



         

Sooner or later everyone gets dementia!

Dnarever wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 7:33pm:


Nah - the denialist business is obviously a nice little earner. Galileo would turn in his grave.

Just an update to clarify the original idea I had about Muller trolling the bugger out of the deniers

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 11:29pm:


The angrier you get, the more incoherent you become.

May I ask what draws you to debating by way of the written word when you struggle so much at expressing your opinions and emotions with anything even approaching a basic level of competency? 

namnugenot wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 10:23am:


Why would you say that? Not everyone gets it - have you got early onset?

SOB

Seems there is more from a peer-reviewer of Muller dog shi.. data. He has broken the code in talking about it.

the method used to attribute the warming to human emissions is way over-simplistic. I don’t think this question can be answered by the simple curve fitting used in this paper, and I don’t see that their paper adds anything to our understanding of the recent warming

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http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/worst-of-the-best-peer-reviewer-breaks...

I just find it amusing to think anybody could believe that an economist could conduct a peer review on a paper on physics - or that the comments of amateur bloggers, and a  retired radio announcer who just happened to read the weather, such as Antony Watts meets the criteria of a peer review process.

I start to see new significance in Carl Sagan's quote, but I don't relish the prospect that one of my submissions on Environmental Science may one day be "peer reviewed" by a taxi driver, or perhaps in these days of idiocracy, it will be "Peer Review" brought to you by Ronald MacDonald.   

This has well and truly passed the peer review process for surrealism.

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2012 at 5:35pm:



I still fail to see how an economists peer review of scientific research is relivant.

I would question how he even qualifies as a peer?

Doctor Jolly wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 3:22pm:

By design

From Gavin Schmidt at RC

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progressiveslol wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2012 at 5:13pm:


I see your tin foil hat is back on.   Doesnt it get hot under there ?

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

Unless of course they manipulate in your favor.

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 11:07am:


Nooo. That would be the job of the peer review system. Which is why hacks like Goddard start blogs and don't submit their analyses to peer review journals. I know for a fact that you do not posses the wherewithal to assess the credibility of Goddard's claims, as evidenced by your predilection to simply accepting easily refute denier claims.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 7:33pm:


http://www.desmogblog.com/andrew-bolt-cuts-ties-climate-science-denying-galileo-movement-over-alleged-anti-jewish-conspiracy-theory

ANDREW Bolt is Australia's loudest and most popular climate science doubt-spreader who just loves to stoke the fires of environmental conspiracy theorists with his daily splurge of blog posts and his weekly radio and TV shows.

The blogger and columnist in the Murdoch-owned News Ltd press describes climate change as a "religious movement" and says climate scientists are part of a global conspiracy.

Bolt allows his commenters to refer to the United Nations as the "United Nazis" and regularly joins the "one world government" conspiracy theorists while pulling quotes out of context to insinuate "warmists" have ambitions of totalitarian "global management". He maligns solar power at every opportunity and claims wind farms are an "insult to the intelligence".

But there is at least one conspiracy theory which Andrew Bolt isn't happy to endorse. Up until last week, Bolt was listed as an adviser to one of Australia's most active climate denialist organisations the Galileo Movement. But then what happened?

In a report late last month in the Sydney Morning Herald, the Galileo Movement's project manager Malcolm Roberts, a former mining industry consultant, was asked if recent research led by US physicist Professor Richard Muller had swayed the group's thinking on human-caused climate change. The SMH report read
[inent]Mr Roberts said climate change science had been captured by ''some of the major banking families in the world'' who form a ''tight-knit cabal''. He said he understood that the group's views might sound strange, but claimed they were becoming increasingly popular.[/indent]
[indent]''It does sound outlandish,'' Mr Roberts said. ''I, like you, was reluctant to believe it [but] there are significant things going on in Australia that people are waking up to. The UN's climate front is just a part of the overall UN 'Agenda 21', which is the sustainability program and the biodiversity program … But the biggest one's the UN agenda for global governance.''[/indent]

The bit about "banking families" made its way to Bolt, who was apparently spooked and wrote Roberts an email saying his words "sounded very much like one of those Jewish world conspiracy theories that I despise". After getting a reply, Bolt wrote:
[indent]Your conspiracy theory seemed utterly stupid even before I knew which families you meant. Now checking the list of banking families you’ve given me, your theory becomes terribly, shamefully familiar.[/indent]
[indent]Two of the three most prominent and current banking families you’ve mentioned are Jewish, and the third is sometimes falsely assumed to be. Yes, this smacks too much of the Jewish world conspiracy theorising I’ve always loathed.[/indent]
Bolt then asked to be removed from the list of the Galileo Movement's advisers, which is a veritable who's who of climate science denial, listing the likes of Lord Christopher Monckton, Richard Lindzen, Fred Singer, Bob Carter, Ian Plimer and the Cato Institute's Pat Michaels. Popular Sydney radio host Alan Jones is Galileo's patron. Will any of them feel the need to follow Bolt?

In the comments section, Roberts claimed his words were not anti-semitic and that "Some of my friends and those who I respect, admire and value enormously for their achievements are Jewish." But Roberts then offered to educate Bolt on "major international banking families", "cabals" and pushes for "global governance".

Bolt's defection does put him in something of an awkward position, not least because one of the people who Roberts recommends to Bolt for more on his banking theories is David Evans, who is one of Bolt's favourite skeptics. For example, Bolt cites Evans here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and, well, you get the picture.

Evans, the husband of climate sceptic blogger JoNova, once outlined his thesis in a 2009 paper published by the Science and Public Policy Institute titled Manufacturing Money, and Global Warming. Naming the "Rothschilds", Evans writes

[indent]The banking families don’t work for a living in the normal sense, like the rest of us. They avoid scrutiny and envy by blending in and make themselves invisible. Since they own or influence all sorts of media organizations, it isn’t too hard. There are unsubstantiated rumors and conspiracy theories, but nobody can really credibly say how much wealth and influence they have.[/indent]

One of Bolt's other favourite "experts" to cite is Christopher Monckton who, like Evans and Nova, is also an adviser to the Galileo Movement. Bolt cites Monckton enthusiastically  here, here, here and here and probably lots of other places.

Monckton has been pushing his various conspiratorial talking points around the globe for years. To add to his insistence that climate change is some sort of socialist plot to take over the world, Monckton has recently taken to questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama's birth certificate in a Tea Party-sponsored tour. Is Bolt happy to stick with Monckton, one wonders?

But is it fair to generalise that people who deny climate change science are all conspiracy theorists? Well no, but one piece of new research does suggest that people who reject the science are also more likely to entertain a whole range of whacky ideas.

Research led by cognitive psychologist Professor Stephan Lewandowsky at the University of Western Australia, to be published in the journal Psychological Science, found an important predictor for climate science denialism was a belief in free-market economics.

But the research also found a correlation between denial of human caused climate change science and "conspiracist ideation", such as acceptance of supposed CIA plots to kill Martin Luther King, faked Moon landings or how the US government let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbour so they could enter World War II.

Or the strongest correlation, plots to create world governments.

Desmogblog (http://s.tt/1kawU)