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Global Warming's terrifying new maths
Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:46pm

Will the return of El Nino this summer produce the hottest on record for Australia? If the northern hemisphere is anything to go by, it's going to be a scorcher.

I know you denialists will get all cranky about this headline, but there are some sobering figures in this article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20...

If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced you, or the size of your AC bill this summer, here are some hard numbers about climate change: June broke or tied 3,215 high-temperature records across the United States. That followed the warmest May on record for the Northern Hemisphere – the 327th consecutive month in which the temperature of the entire globe exceeded the 20th-century average, the odds of which occurring by simple chance were 3.7 x 10-99, a number considerably larger than the number of stars in the universe.

Meteorologists reported that this spring was the warmest ever recorded for our nation – in fact, it crushed the old record by so much that it represented the "largest temperature departure from average of any season on record." The same week, Saudi authorities reported that it had rained in Mecca despite a temperature of 109 degrees, the hottest downpour in the planet's history.

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Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:57pm

NBNMyths wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:46pm:

Will the return of El Nino this summer produce the hottest on record for Australia? If the northern hemisphere is anything to go by, it's going to be a scorcher.

I know you denialists will get all cranky about this headline, but there are some sobering figures in this article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20...

If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced you, or the size of your AC bill this summer, here are some hard numbers about climate change: June broke or tied 3,215 high-temperature records across the United States. That followed the warmest May on record for the Northern Hemisphere – the 327th consecutive month in which the temperature of the entire globe exceeded the 20th-century average, the odds of which occurring by simple chance were 3.7 x 10-99, a number considerably larger than the number of stars in the universe.

Meteorologists reported that this spring was the warmest ever recorded for our nation – in fact, it crushed the old record by so much that it represented the "largest temperature departure from average of any season on record." The same week, Saudi authorities reported that it had rained in Mecca despite a temperature of 109 degrees, the hottest downpour in the planet's history.

Global Warming as an economic element is crap.... Grin

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:02pm NBNMyths wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:46pm: Will the return of El Nino this summer produce the hottest on record for Australia? If the northern hemisphere is anything to go by, it's going to be a scorcher. Yes we will see. I will remember this comment, I was an elephant in a previous life.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61849 Here Gender:	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:04pm Prevailing wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:57pm: Global Warming as an economic element is crap.... NMS I am confident that this means something which I probably do not agree with.
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Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:08pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:04pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:57pm:

Global Warming as an economic element is crap....

NMS

I am confident that this means something which I probably do not agree with.

Yes it means it is economic vandalism and lunacy to impose reverse tariffs on our own industries and economic position and the people behind it should be gaoled for conspiracy to defraud Australians of their legal economic rights. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with it its unconstitutional for the Government to impose this economic sanction on Australian citizens.... Cool

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:10pm Is Rolling Stone peer reviewed?
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:19pm Shane B wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:10pm: Is Rolling Stone peer reviewed? Yeh it is getting good. Rolling stone as a reference, weather as climate. They have lost the plot with the science.
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Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:22pm

NBNMyths wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:46pm:

If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced you, or the size of your AC bill this summer, here are some hard numbers about climate change: June broke or tied 3,215 high-temperature records across the United States. That followed the warmest May on record for the Northern Hemisphere – the 327th consecutive month in which the temperature of the entire globe exceeded the 20th-century average, the odds of which occurring by simple chance were 3.7 x 10-99, a number considerably larger than the number of stars in the universe.

Absolute junk. This assumes that events are independent of each other like in a lottery. The global average temperature does not fulfill this requirement (in technical terms, it is autocorrelated). It (the global climate average) would be white noise if that were so, but it is not. The author has not understood the null hypothesis.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:28pm Quote: Global Warming's terrifying new maths This is exactly the kind of human hating hysterical propaganda that caused that Brilliant science PHD student to massacre all of those innocent people in Colorado yesterday....
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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #9 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 12:17am http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/ http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DM_south.htm Btw, the US drought will have a considerable impact on Global agricultural prices, including a big rise in corn pricing, which will have a considerable flow on effects.
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #10 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 12:25am All the more reason why we should protect our own food security with Tariffs and forbid sale of land for agriculture to foreign countries.
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Reply #11 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 6:37am

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 12:17am:

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DM_south.htm

Btw, the US drought will have a considerable impact on Global agricultural prices, including a big rise in corn pricing, which will have a considerable flow on effects.

So you have evidence this drought is the result of co2. How much is it co2 and how much is natural.

Desperation is all this theory is. Weather is now climate according to you lot.

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Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths
Reply #12 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 8:27am

Shane B wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:10pm:

Is Rolling Stone peer reviewed?

Yes it is. An ad hoc committee was formed to peer review Mr McKibben's article. Members of the committee were: David Bowie, Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, and Robert Downey Jr (after his release from jail for possession of a chemical substance).

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Global Warming's terrifying new maths Reply #13 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 8:49am For the weather is climate, the local is global nutjobs who are again trying to scam people. The globe is mostly cool. Joe Bastardi https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/227082807418171393/photo/1/largetw_p=t...
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Reply #14 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 9:00am

Shane B wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 11:02pm:

NBNMyths wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2012 at 10:46pm:

Will the return of El Nino this summer produce the hottest on record for Australia? If the northern hemisphere is anything to go by, it's going to be a scorcher.

Yes we will see. I will remember this comment, I was an elephant in a previous life.

I have been struggling with this since it was posted, very tempted to speculate unkindly about what you may be in this life but no, I won’t do it.

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