progressiveslol wrote on Jul 20^th, 2012 at 10:05am:



For a start, a "loon" is a denier.  Someone who elevates beliefs over logic.  Lets get the terminology right.

What is very encouraging is that european levels have dropped due to carbon pricing and other determined measures. This gives a lot of hope that we can turn it around, and they have laid the blueprint for others to follow.

Its inherently racist to say that a chinese man cannot polute more than a european or Australian.  The world fully expects China, and India to rise to the levels of western countries as they develop.  Once there, they fall into the same responsibilities for cuts as we have.

What is disgusting, is that an Australian produces more the twice as much co2 polution as a european for a similar quality of life. We should be embarrased that we're at this state, and those advocating for us to keep increasing our co2 output while europe decreses its output, should be doubly embarrased by their greed.

If you are so interested in facts then show us how much humans contribute to the overall carbon emissions - in percentage terms

http://www.theage.com.au/world/chinese-footprint-grows-20120719-22cvh.html

HE average Chinese person's carbon footprint is now almost on a par with the average European's, new figures show.

China became the largest national emitter of carbon dioxide in 2006, though its emissions per person have always been lower than those in developed countries such as Europe's.

But this week's report by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and the European Commission's Joint Research Centre show that per capita emissions in China increased by 9 per cent in 2011 to reach 7.2 tonnes per person, only a fraction lower than the EU average of 7.5 tonnes. The figure for the US is much higher - at 17.3 tonnes - though total Chinese carbon emissions are now about 80 per cent higher than those of America.
The widening gap reflects the 9 per cent increase in China's emissions in 2011, driven mainly by coal use, compared with a 2 per cent fall in the US.Advertisement

Total emissions in Europe and Japan also fell last year, by 3 per cent and 2 per cent respectively. But emissions rose across much of the developing world, including India, which saw a 6 per cent increase. As a result, OECD nations now account for only about a third of the global total.