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Question: Do you feel safe from the next killer flu pandemic?

yes - I trust the Govt. to protect me    
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no - I never trust any Govt.    
  4 (66.7%)
not sure    
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Total votes: 6
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Reply #60 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:04pm
 
Wharfy, basically anyone with an IQ higher than the 'I need help tying my shoes' or the 'how do you make fire' level considers ANYTHING from 'Rense.com', 'InfoWars' or Alex Jones to be complete and total bullshit....
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

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Reply #61 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:16pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:18pm:
you are forgiven for continuous lies

and attacks

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Thanks Light for forgiving these non-believers.
Gizmo & Borg have issues with the truth
even when it is served to them on a a plate.

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Reply #62 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:18pm:
you are forgiven for continuous lies

and attacks

namaste



Thanks Light for forgiving these non-believers.
Gizmo & Borg have issues with the truth
even when it is served to them on a a plate.

Namaste


Yeah, we prefer REAL 'truth' rather than ...'loopy truth'...
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Reply #63 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:46pm
 
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a lie

forgiven

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Re: Killer flu H3N2 - the predicted big one now here?
Reply #64 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:57pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 6:18pm:
you are forgiven for continuous lies

and attacks

namaste



Thanks Light for forgiving these non-believers.
Gizmo & Borg have issues with the truth
even when it is served to them on a a plate.

Namaste


Yeah, we prefer REAL 'truth' rather than ...'loopy truth'...



Gizmo - you are forgiven.
Go and sin no more.
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Re: Killer flu H3N2 - the predicted big one now here?
Reply #65 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:57pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a lie

forgiven

namaste


aww...no response to 'we prefer real truth'??? I DO understand...the 'truth' you rabbitt on about is ONLY true when people are on the same drugs as YOU....
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

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Reply #66 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:01pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:57pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a lie

forgiven

namaste


aww...no response to 'we prefer real truth'??? I DO understand...the 'truth' you rabbitt on about is ONLY true when people are on the same drugs as YOU....



Gizmo - you're always on the bottle - you drunkard.
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Reply #67 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:03pm
 
Anyway - Tamiflu is one of the new miracle drugs -
not a fake miracle like Longweekend gets in his prayers.
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Reply #68 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:04pm
 
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a mis-truth that you posted

you are forgiven

namaste
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Re: Killer flu H3N2 - the predicted big one now here?
Reply #69 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:01pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:57pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 7:46pm:
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a lie

forgiven

namaste


aww...no response to 'we prefer real truth'??? I DO understand...the 'truth' you rabbitt on about is ONLY true when people are on the same drugs as YOU....



Gizmo - you're always on the bottle - you drunkard.


Nope, not this time bobby..just 'anti -wharfy bullshit'...let's face it...wharfy is usally full of poo..
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Re: Killer flu H3N2 - the predicted big one now here?
Reply #70 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:09pm
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/03/15/tamiflu-s-effects-...

Tamiflu's Effects On Your Brain

The FDA has been reviewing reports of abnormal behavior and other brain effects in more than 1,800 children who had taken the flu medicine Tamiflu.

The symptoms have included convulsions, delirium or delusions, and in Japan, five deaths have been reported in children under 16 as a result of neurological or psychiatric problems. Four were fatal falls, and one was a brain infection in a patient with leukemia.

There have also been nine deaths among older teens and adults, attributed to neuropsychiatric problems or brain infections.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090810/tuk-tamiflu-harmful-to-children-dba1618.html

The True Epidemic Approaching: Mass Tamiflu Poisoning

The purpose of this thread is to provide a general overview of what Tamifluis and a brief look into the forces behind it in light of the latest frenzy of media activity regarding the swine flu.

What is Tamiflu?

Known by the trade name Tamiflu, Oseltamivir is a drug designed to treat flusymptoms after initial onset marketed to all individuals over one year of age. It functions by serving as an inhibitor to the proteins that a virus requires to break out of cells upon mass replication within the cell body - which presumably wind up dieing out within their cellular prison. The end result is that if taken within 48 hours of the onset of symtoms, it can reduce the duration of the illness by about 30% or 1.3 days. It has been recommended as a mechanism to offset symptoms as well as preventativemedication in communities with a suspected outbreak of the so called "Epidemic" flus of the past decade - from Avian Flu to the present Swine Flu.

Who distributes Tamiflu and how is it manufactured?

Oseltamivir is manufactured of llicium floridanum, or Chinese Star Anise, an herb indigenous to southeast Asia. During a 10 step process which takes a year to complete and involves some fairly precarious high explosive work, Shikimic acid is extracted from the plant and serves as the active ingredient in Tamiflu. It is refined into oral capsules as well as a spray for inhalation, and an injectable delivery system is presently being tested.

In a slightly off topic note, a warning was initiated by the FDA back in 2003 to avoid Star Anise teas, which were being marketed increasingly in the wake of the initial flu pandemic fears, due to an outbreak of illnesses including serious neurological effects such as seizures, vomiting, jitteriness and rapid eye movement. It was believed to be caused due to a contamination of Japanese Star Anise, a similar species of tree which is a known poison.

Oseltamivir itself was invented by Gilead Sciences Inc. in 1996, and due to lackluster sales the commercial and manufacturing rights were quickly sold to Roche of Switzerland - named top corporate criminal of the 90's by the Multinational Monitor - in exchange for annual royalties. Four years ago a dispute was settled in which Gilead charged Roche with failing to adequately promote and produce the drug as well as contamination issues and invoked a contract clause to demand the return of all commercial and manufacturing rights, which was settled by a payment of retroactive royalties as well as the creation of a body to promote globalized production of generic Tamiflu - somewhat coicidently in stride with a renewed burst of fear mongering in the media provoking a massive stockpiling of the drug. In the time since, amidst fears of global pandemic, stockpiling has gone global with countries everywhere scrambling to purchase the drug, which sells for upwards of 100$ a dose - with the increased demand leading to Roche outsourcing much of the production process - setting the stage for windfall profits.


What are the side effects of Tamiflu?



"Adverse drug reactions include: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and headache - rarer reactions include hepatitis and liver disorder, rash, severe allergic reactions, and Stephen-Johnson Syndrome (often fatal detachment of skin)... other ADRs reported in post-marketing surveillance including: toxic epidermal necrolysis (skin falling off), irregular heartbeat, seizure, confusion, abnormal behavior, inability to walk, convulsion, loss of consciousness, hallucination, aggravation of diabetes, and haemorrhagic colitis (digestive disorders)." -From Wikipedia and FDA reports




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Re: Killer flu H3N2 - the predicted big one now here?
Reply #71 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:10pm
 
Actually...NO spot, vaccines and 'cures' produce anti-bodies, which assist the body in fighting the virus.....without anti-bodies, you DIE...

____________

focus on your statement here,

this is a mis-truth that you posted and continue

to avoid addressing

you are forgiven

namaste
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Reply #72 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:12pm
 
See what I mean Bobby...his  last three response have been the same posts.....
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Reply #73 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:15pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:09pm:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/03/15/tamiflu-s-effects-...

Tamiflu's Effects On Your Brain

The FDA has been reviewing reports of abnormal behavior and other brain effects in more than 1,800 children who had taken the flu medicine Tamiflu.

The symptoms have included convulsions, delirium or delusions, and in Japan, five deaths have been reported in children under 16 as a result of neurological or psychiatric problems. Four were fatal falls, and one was a brain infection in a patient with leukemia.

There have also been nine deaths among older teens and adults, attributed to neuropsychiatric problems or brain infections.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090810/tuk-tamiflu-harmful-to-children-dba1618.html

The True Epidemic Approaching: Mass Tamiflu Poisoning

The purpose of this thread is to provide a general overview of what Tamifluis and a brief look into the forces behind it in light of the latest frenzy of media activity regarding the swine flu.

What is Tamiflu?

Known by the trade name Tamiflu, Oseltamivir is a drug designed to treat flusymptoms after initial onset marketed to all individuals over one year of age. It functions by serving as an inhibitor to the proteins that a virus requires to break out of cells upon mass replication within the cell body - which presumably wind up dieing out within their cellular prison. The end result is that if taken within 48 hours of the onset of symtoms, it can reduce the duration of the illness by about 30% or 1.3 days. It has been recommended as a mechanism to offset symptoms as well as preventativemedication in communities with a suspected outbreak of the so called "Epidemic" flus of the past decade - from Avian Flu to the present Swine Flu.

Who distributes Tamiflu and how is it manufactured?

Oseltamivir is manufactured of llicium floridanum, or Chinese Star Anise, an herb indigenous to southeast Asia. During a 10 step process which takes a year to complete and involves some fairly precarious high explosive work, Shikimic acid is extracted from the plant and serves as the active ingredient in Tamiflu. It is refined into oral capsules as well as a spray for inhalation, and an injectable delivery system is presently being tested.

In a slightly off topic note, a warning was initiated by the FDA back in 2003 to avoid Star Anise teas, which were being marketed increasingly in the wake of the initial flu pandemic fears, due to an outbreak of illnesses including serious neurological effects such as seizures, vomiting, jitteriness and rapid eye movement. It was believed to be caused due to a contamination of Japanese Star Anise, a similar species of tree which is a known poison.

Oseltamivir itself was invented by Gilead Sciences Inc. in 1996, and due to lackluster sales the commercial and manufacturing rights were quickly sold to Roche of Switzerland - named top corporate criminal of the 90's by the Multinational Monitor - in exchange for annual royalties. Four years ago a dispute was settled in which Gilead charged Roche with failing to adequately promote and produce the drug as well as contamination issues and invoked a contract clause to demand the return of all commercial and manufacturing rights, which was settled by a payment of retroactive royalties as well as the creation of a body to promote globalized production of generic Tamiflu - somewhat coicidently in stride with a renewed burst of fear mongering in the media provoking a massive stockpiling of the drug. In the time since, amidst fears of global pandemic, stockpiling has gone global with countries everywhere scrambling to purchase the drug, which sells for upwards of 100$ a dose - with the increased demand leading to Roche outsourcing much of the production process - setting the stage for windfall profits.


What are the side effects of Tamiflu?



"Adverse drug reactions include: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and headache - rarer reactions include hepatitis and liver disorder, rash, severe allergic reactions, and Stephen-Johnson Syndrome (often fatal detachment of skin)... other ADRs reported in post-marketing surveillance including: toxic epidermal necrolysis (skin falling off), irregular heartbeat, seizure, confusion, abnormal behavior, inability to walk, convulsion, loss of consciousness, hallucination, aggravation of diabetes, and haemorrhagic colitis (digestive disorders)." -From Wikipedia and FDA reports








Thanks Light - that's a good article.
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Reply #74 - Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:16pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 14th, 2012 at 8:12pm:
See what I mean Bobby...his  last three response have been the same posts.....


But you have avoided addressing your mistake.
You are forgiven.
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