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Reply #825 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:15pm
 


Snatam Kaur - By Thy Grace

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grace will always follow thee

be at peace

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Reply #826 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:16pm
 
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Reply #827 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:19pm
 
fear not

all is well

be at peace

with so very much LOVE and LIGHT

this is within all hearts

and so it is

so be it

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Reply #828 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:32pm
 
Dear master Light,
no one would dare to rebut you now -

all has been observed as per the divine plan.

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Reply #829 - Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:47pm
 

Bobby
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Dear Karnal,
You have not understand cell splitting .
We live inside a multi-dimensional universe & in one part the
offenders have been burnt at the stake already while in this part they remain free -
however there are boundary layers which cross & overlap - in this
layer a Pope has already resigned under the threat of a Royal Commission
& will be safe from the stake inside the Vatican residence in 2 months.

you are forgiven

namaste



Karnal,
Quote:
You are correct, Bat. Everything that happens in this dimension is a projection of the 5th.

But the reverse is also true. Everything we say and do in this dimension influences the 5th and higher. The universe is multiDiMeNsIoNaL.

I'm a big fan of living in the dimension you find yourself. If you are constantly seeking something else, you do not ascend, you merely become unbalanced. Becoming enlightened is a process of acceptance, not flitting around the dimensions. Here and now is where it's at.

The project of exposing the secret, inner workings of power is a monstrous ego trip - particularly when you get it wrong time after time and can't admit it. Only the humble can become enlightened. The tree with the most fruit bows the lowest.



Dear Karnal,
but what dimension are you in?

Since all the dimensions have boundary layers & affect the others then all are true.

I know this is a hard concept but you will get there one day.

in love & light

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Reply #830 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 2:25am
 
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=270866

"Gay sex rings, 'The Filth' corrupting the Vatican...Why the Pope REALLY quit"

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Date: Sunday, 3-Mar-2013 15:15:45

Resignation isn’t in Benedict’s vocabulary. The real reason he has quit is far more spectacular.

It is to save the Catholic Church from ignominy: he has voluntarily delivered himself up as a sacrificial lamb to purge the Church of what he calls ‘The Filth’. And it must have taken courage.

Here is the remarkable thing you are seldom told about a papal death or resignation: every one of the senior office-holders in the Vatican – those at the highest level of its internal bureaucracy, called the Curia – loses his job.

A report Benedict himself commissioned into the state of the Curia landed on his desk in January. It revealed that ‘The Filth’ – or more specifically, the paedophile priest scandal – had entered the bureaucracy.

He resigned in early February. That report was a final straw. The Filth has been corroding the soul of the Catholic Church for years, and the reason is the power-grabbing ineptitude and secrecy of the Curia – which failed to deal with the perpetrators. Now the Curia itself stands accused of being part of The Filth.

Benedict realises the Curia must be reformed root and branch. He knows this is a mammoth task.

He is too old, and too implicated, to clean it up himself. He has resigned to make way for a younger, more dynamic successor, untainted by scandal – and a similarly recast Curia.

Benedict was not prepared to wait for his own death to sweep out the gang who run the place.

In one extraordinary gesture, by resigning, he gets rid of the lot of them. But what then?

The Curia are usually quickly reappointed. This time it may be different. It involves scores of departments, like the civil service of a middling-sized country.

It has a Home and Foreign Office called the Secretariat of State. There’s a department that watches out for heresy – the former Holy Inquisition which under Cardinal Ratzinger dealt with, or failed to deal with, paedophile priests.

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The former president of the Vatican Bank, Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, once told me that the Curia is a ‘village of washerwomen. They wash clothes, punch ’em, dance on ’em, squeezing all the old dirt out’.
Confidant: The Pope with his secretary Georg Ganswein

Confidant: The Pope with his secretary Georg Ganswein

But who was he to talk? In that same interview Marcinkus admitted he appropriated $250 million from the Vatican pension fund to pay a fine, levied by the Italian government, for financial misdemeanours. Amazingly, he saw nothing wrong with that.

Not surprisingly, some of the bureaucrats let off steam in unpriestly ways. Some are actively gay men who cannot normalise their lives with a partner because of Catholic teaching.

They frequent discreet bars, saunas and ‘safe houses’. On another level there are individuals known to have a weakness for sex with minors.

It appears the people who procure these sexual services have become greedy. They have been putting the squeeze on their priestly clients to launder cash through the Vatican. There is no suggestion that the bank has knowingly collaborated.

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Last autumn Benedict ordered three trusted high-ranking cardinals to investigate the state of the Curia. This was the report that was delivered to him just weeks ago.

It was meant for Benedict’s ‘eyes only’ but details of a sex ring and money-laundering scams last week reached the Italian weekly Panorama. Then the daily La Repubblica ran the story.

The timing of the report has coincided with fresh allegations of priestly sexual abuse in Germany. Meanwhile, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles and Cardinal Sean Brady of Ireland have been accused of covering up paedophile abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287074/Pope-resigns-2013-Gay-sex-rings-...

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Reply #831 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 2:32am
 
http://dailynewsway.com/pope-resigns-2013-gay-sex-rings-the-filth-corrupting-the...

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Confidant: The Pope with his secretary Georg Ganswein

But who was he to talk? In that same talk Marcinkus certified he appropriated $250 million from a Vatican grant account to compensate a fine, levied by a Italian government, for financial misdemeanours. Amazingly, he saw zero wrong with that. 

Not surprisingly, some of a bureaucrats let off steam in unpriestly ways. Some are actively happy group who can't normalise their lives with a partner since of Catholic teaching.

They visit watchful bars, saunas and ‘safe houses’. On another turn there are people famous to have a debility for sex with minors.

It appears a people who gain these passionate services have turn greedy. They have been putting a fist on their ecclesiastic clients to refine income by a Vatican. There is no idea that a bank has intentionally collaborated.

But in January, Italy’s executive bank dangling credit-card activities inside Vatican City for ‘anti-money-laundering reasons’.

The Pope was already mad over a burglary by his servant of private association and top-secret papers final year. The thefts were substantially an try to learn how many a Pope knew of impropriety within a Curia. 

Then news of a Vatican sex ring and income scams reached his ears late final year. Benedict should not have been surprised. Hints of a seamy Vatican underworld have been surfacing for years.

In Mar 2010, a 29-year-old chorister in St Peter’s was sacked for allegedly procuring masculine prostitutes, one of them a seminarian, for a pope gentleman-in-waiting who was also a comparison confidant in  a Curial dialect that oversees a church’s worldwide companion activities.

Last autumn Benedict systematic 3 devoted high-ranking cardinals to examine a state of a Curia. This was a news that was delivered to him usually weeks ago.

It was meant for Benedict’s ‘eyes only’ though sum of a sex ring and money-laundering scams final week reached a Italian weekly Panorama. Then a daily La Repubblica ran a story.

The timing of a news has coincided with uninformed allegations of ecclesiastic passionate abuse in Germany. Meanwhile, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles and Cardinal Sean  Brady of Ireland have been indicted of covering adult paedophile abuse.

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Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles, left, and Cardinal Sean Brady of Ireland, right, have been indicted of covering adult paedophile abuse

Benedict has quiescent to safeguard that a whole ‘Filth’ from many countries of a universe right adult to a Vatican centre is cleansed. He has given adult his pursuit to flog out all a office-holders and start again.

While a college of cardinals appears to have been repelled by  a resignation, Benedict’s extreme preference was both expected and strongly endorsed dual years ago by an venerable American clergyman and former priest.

In 2011, Dr Richard Sipe, a severely reputable universe consultant on a ecclesiastic abuse scandal, announced that customarily a Pope’s abdication would solve a paedophile clergyman crisis. Sipe charged that ‘along with other bishops, Benedict was complicit progressing in granting and covering adult a crimes of a priests’.   

This month a documentary film, Mea Maxima Culpa, is on recover in a UK. It claims that Benedict, as Cardinal Ratzinger, refused to mislay a paedophile clergyman called Father Murphy in a Nineties.

Sipe resolved that a Church’s customarily wish was a ‘courageous act’ on a partial of a Pope. He could start to reanimate a Church ‘by resigning from a papacy and pursuit for a abdication of all a other bishops, like him, who were complicit in a abuse scandal’.

‘Benedict’s self-denial is a biggest ever play in a Church’

So a Pope’s abdication could be usually a commencement of a call of resignations, and/or sackings, when a new Pope comes in.

With usually 3 days left of his  pontificate, Benedict supposed with lightning speed Cardinal Keith O’Brien’s resignation. O’Brien was not concerned in covering adult for paedophile priests – though allegations that he had done inapt advances towards priests in a Eighties were adequate for Benedict to endorse that he was not to join a conclave.      

On Tuesday, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, former conduct of a Catholic Church in England, announced that a Vatican contingency ‘put a possess residence in order’.

In a confidant stricture of a papacy and a Curia, a principal said: ‘There is no doubt that currently there needs to be renovation in a Church, remodel in a Church, and generally of a government.’ 

The principal was referring to a preference done during an ancestral assembly of a world’s bishops in 1962, famous as a Second Vatican Council, that called for devolution of energy from Rome.

Bishops and lay Catholics via a universe protest that a change of management divided from Rome to a internal churches has not happened. As a result, a comprehensive energy of a Vatican has been guileful absolutely.   

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Reply #832 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 2:34am
 
The investiture of a large, over-powerful Curia is a gift of history. When a Pope mislaid his pope territories, that stretched from Venice down to Naples, in a midst 19th Century, a polite use stayed on to run a Church from Rome.   

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On Tuesday, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O¿Connor, former conduct of a Catholic Church in England, announced that a Vatican contingency ¿put a possess residence in order¿

The enlightenment of a rarely centralised Church supervision is now deeply entrenched. John Paul II, a enterprising luminary Pope, seemed usually a male to purify adult a Curia.

But he bypassed it, preferring to spend his time travelling a world. Benedict competence have done a start on it – though he retreated into learned pursuits.

But even if a reformer gets in, he is going to have his work cut out to change an establishment that has amassed such a centralised grip. Choosing a new group to be devoted competence take usually as long. There is each possibility that a aged ways will return.

But Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor competence good be unhappy if a Pope in a cover of Benedict is elected. Benedict believes in clever executive government. He has no time for devolution. And he competence still have influence.

He has left on record to claim that those who gainsay from Catholic training should leave. He has pronounced that he would be happier with a smaller, totally constant and true Church. 

Benedict’s lucky claimant would expected pierce a righteous vigour to bear on intimately active Catholics vital together outward of marriage, or regulating contraception, or in happy relationships.

The entrance conference is set to be a many quarrelsome for centuries. Whichever side wins – a conservatives, a reformers or a devolutionists – will emanate tensions and enmity between Catholicism’s opposite vigour groups.

My theory is that we are going to get a younger Benedict. we trust that we will get a Pope who will mislay any cardinal, bishop or clergyman who is in any approach concerned in a paedophile scandal.

But he will also pierce to bar Catholics, high and low, who are not prepared to follow a Church’s teachings on passionate probity as a whole. 

Benedict’s overwhelming self-denial constitutes, in my view, a biggest play in a papacy’s 2,000-year history. If it works, a Church will start to revive a besmirched reputation. If it fails, we Catholics are headed for intolerable dispute and fragmentation.
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Reply #833 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 6:36am
 
Hi master Light,

3 posts in a row:

such disgusting behaviour from those who give out moral guidance -

they are no better than mountain gorillas.

can they ever be forgiven?

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Reply #834 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 8:52am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 4th, 2013 at 9:47pm:
Bobby
Quote:
Dear Karnal,
You have not understand cell splitting .
We live inside a multi-dimensional universe & in one part the
offenders have been burnt at the stake already while in this part they remain free -
however there are boundary layers which cross & overlap - in this
layer a Pope has already resigned under the threat of a Royal Commission
& will be safe from the stake inside the Vatican residence in 2 months.

you are forgiven

namaste



Karnal,
Quote:
You are correct, Bat. Everything that happens in this dimension is a projection of the 5th.

But the reverse is also true. Everything we say and do in this dimension influences the 5th and higher. The universe is multiDiMeNsIoNaL.

I'm a big fan of living in the dimension you find yourself. If you are constantly seeking something else, you do not ascend, you merely become unbalanced. Becoming enlightened is a process of acceptance, not flitting around the dimensions. Here and now is where it's at.

The project of exposing the secret, inner workings of power is a monstrous ego trip - particularly when you get it wrong time after time and can't admit it. Only the humble can become enlightened. The tree with the most fruit bows the lowest.



Dear Karnal,
but what dimension are you in?



Ah. Good question. What are thoughts? Electrical impulses? Combinations of synaptic molecules? Neuronal messages?

The id Karnal is a series of 0s and 1s, bouncing around the world - nothing more, nothing less.

Thoughts are responsible for almost everything we say and do, but what are they? Who are they? Where are they?

My money's on the 5th. The higher dimension, the causal, holds the seeds of those thoughts, our karma.

These are just ideas. I may well be wrong. I have never consciously been to the causal plane, but I'm told I go there every night when I sleep.

Freewill? Maybe. More like universal law.
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Reply #835 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 11:50am
 
Dear Karnal,
we shall discuss these other dimensions in more detail if you want?

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Reply #836 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 12:13pm
 
Ah, I have no conscious knowledge of these higher dimensions, merely theory.

This is why I prefer to discuss this dimension.
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Reply #837 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 12:55pm
 
Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Mar 5th, 2013 at 12:13pm:
Ah, I have no conscious knowledge of these higher dimensions, merely theory.

This is why I prefer to discuss this dimension.



But I am sure master Light would enlighten you?
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Reply #838 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 1:02pm
 
I doubt that very much.
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Reply #839 - Mar 5th, 2013 at 1:32pm
 
Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Mar 5th, 2013 at 1:02pm:
I doubt that very much.



Doubting Thomas.
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