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Then why is it in the racism  thread?

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Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 9^th, 2012 at 10:06am:



Yeah, daylight robbery with an Allen key.
Point taken.

Australia's problem with racism is that "anti-racists" are obsessed with it.

So you know all about what the rest of the world thinks by watching TV? Just like you know what Muslims think without asking them and can safely ignore what Muslims like Abu and Falah actually say?

Lack of honest discourse, and even worse, the suppression of any ability to promote honest discourse at any level above the blogosphere, is a problem.

Online we see total racist fwits, who are aholes and proud of it.
At the other end of the spectrum, we have imbeciles who invent their own facts to support invented history of stuff that never happened, to champion a cultural/religious obsession.

We then take a step closer to moderate thought, with people who do not wish to hate anyone, but are gullible enough to accept divisive political campaigns that seek to demonise some cultural groups.
Few aussies today have any problem with asians, finding them honest, hard working, productive members of our society.
However, we do not have to go back very far, to remember when they were considered as "the asian invasion", and their presence was going to destroy our traditional way of life.
The kooks that promoted this garbage, were very sincere, but they were also mostly cretins, simplistic douches impressed by sloganeering bimboes.

Now we have the new wave of fear being focused upon muslims, a people whose religion I have openly derided as repugnant in it's promotion of barbaric beliefs.
I also find myself almost equally repelled by all other religions, including christianity, and as such, find that I can separate my religious disdain, from turning into a personal enmity towards those who practice the religious beliefs I disdain.
That is a pretty crucial factor, that I fear separates the normal person, from the true, extremist racist.
The extremist racist can dislike/hate people on an individual basis, with absolutely no knowledge of them, apart from his pre-conceived, and universally applied, stereotypical prejudices, and that is where racism becomes a problem for us all, and that is what we need to counter.

So, let us have debates about cultural practices, but let's not demonise everyone, or anyone really, just because they do not immediately share our exact cultural model of the aussie superman.
Someone tried that about 70 years ago, in another country, and it turned out pretty rottenly for all.

Still, I'd rather speak to a racist, of any race, than an anti-racist.  At least they're honest, and I value honesty much, much more highly than tolerance.

Not when you're involved, that's for sure.

mozzaok wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 11:14am:


Agreed, Mozzaok, but what I've found is that racists generally warm to people once they meet them.

They'll stick to their racism, but make an exception for the people they know. The more they meet individual cases, the more their racism wanes. Gradually, the fog starts to lift.

Racism is an ideology. People aren't "naturally" racist. Children aren't racist. Racism is latent and subversive, but carefully cultivated by political interests.

Think Slobodan Milosevic and Vladimir Putin. When former muticultural states like Yugoslavia and the USSR splintered, racism was used as an ideological tool - a tool so powerful it could make ordinary people participate in genocide.

Racism is just an excuse for crisis: Jewish bankers. Bosnian separatists. Chechnyan terrorists. Asian ghettos and Abos getting all the benefits.

However, people are not naturally racist. They simply become that way through fear and misinformation.