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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #135 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:14pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:10pm:

Well, one of the benefits of having kids is that you influence them, and that can include teaching them to hate all the things you hate. However, you will note that I said "influence" rather than "dictate to", because they are individual, sentient beings rather than blank slates to be programmed at your will. And if they don't see reason to continue your "traditions" they will likely rebel against them. Thus, if I tried to teach my daughter to "hate" abos, but this conflicted with her own experience/outlook, she'd likely get herself knocked up by one, just to piss me off.

Well, you wouldn't want your daughter to marry one of the little bastards, would you?

You'd have to work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #136 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:14pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

Excellent example, Honky. What you seem to be saying is that, based upon your own experience, we should hate someone who was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Good point, but would I expect someone like that to hold a grudge against all caucasian people because of their race?

Of course! Based upon his experience, I would expect him to find another caucasian person, work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Then, based upon his experience, I would expect him to find a similar caucasian person, work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Is this why you advocate racism?

eh? I don't recall mentioning "caucasians". Just answer the question as it is written please.

Is that a yay or a nay?

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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103266	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #137 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:15pm I've forgotten the question. Would you let daughter to marry one?
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Reply #138 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:10pm:

Well, one of the benefits of having kids is that you influence them, and that can include teaching them to hate all the things you hate. However, you will note that I said "influence" rather than "dictate to", because they are individual, sentient beings rather than blank slates to be programmed at your will. And if they don't see reason to continue your "traditions" they will likely rebel against them. Thus, if I tried to teach my daughter to "hate" abos, but this conflicted with her own experience/outlook, she'd likely get herself knocked up by one, just to piss me off.

Well, you wouldn't want your daughter to marry one of the little bastards, would you?

You'd have to work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

No I certainyl would not. But shes a smart girl, and she loves her pa, so theres bugger all chance of her throwing her life away like that.

Perhaps your gas chambers solution is a little over the top though. I was thinking more along the lines of a friendly chat, to be followed up with a hiding if my advice wasn't heeded.

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Reply #140 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:39pm

Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

This led to a much more tolerant society in that period. That changed with the Howard government who was able to use race as a wedge issue with great impact, children overboard the Tampa, Off shore solution, indefinite detention, temp visas the Aboriginal intervention etc mostly in election years and always about votes.

In fact we have had a situation where an Australian political party has stood against the other race position in every discussion for well over a decade and in most cases only for political gain – harvesting the red neck vote.

We have seen the influence in government departments with long delays in refugee status determinations and cased (numbers like 7 years) where they have refused to acknowledge the obvious, we have seen Australian citizens deported and locked into immigration detention.

In the community we have seen the influence picked up where it has triggered cases like the Cronulla race riots and with Indian students etc. The countries leaders gave the people the example and direction and the people took it.

No we don’t have a problem with racism – you think?

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #141 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:41pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

I've forgotten the question.

Would you let daughter to marry one?

I don't think a fathers permission is required for an adult to get married.
We're also not required to pay a dowry. You're in Australia now.

Right. But what if he's black? Don't they have laws for this sort of thing?

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Reply #143 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

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Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

Back in the 70's Australia was pretty much whites only.

Apart from the blacks. Back in the 40s, they had laws in place for this sort of thing.

Your daughter couldn't marry one. Illegal.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #144 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:15pm

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Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

Funny that racism should increase in step with the number of people from other races.

Do you think? The place seems less racist to me - but I don't have the experience.

Do you have many boongs in your neighbourhood, Honky?

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Reply #145 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

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Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

Back in the 70's Australia was pretty much whites only.

Apart from the blacks. Back in the 40s, they had laws in place for this sort of thing.

Your daughter couldn't marry one. Illegal.

Law schmaw.
Theres no law against shoving a soldering iron up your arse - but noone with half a brain would do it anyway.

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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #147 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:27pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Quote:

Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

Back in the 70's Australia was pretty much whites only.

Apart from the blacks. Back in the 40s, they had laws in place for this sort of thing.

Your daughter couldn't marry one. Illegal.

Law schmaw.
Theres no law against shoving a soldering iron up your arse - but noone with half a brain would do it anyway.

Is that what they did to you? Oh, Honky, I'm so sorry.

Based on your experience, it's no wonder you hate them so. If I was you, I'd make sure none of the little bastards puts anything up there ever again.

Onwards and upwards, eh?

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #148 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:36pm Quote: Based on your experience, it's no wonder you hate them so aha. So now you admit racism can be a justified response to experiences. Thank you, no further questions.
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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #149 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 5:51pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

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Back in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s Australian governments of ally types had a non partisan approach to matters of race.

Back in the 70's Australia was pretty much whites only. Funny that racism should increase in step with the number of people from other races.

You must be too young to remember?

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