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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103222	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #121 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:20pm You must be very traumatised by your experiences, Honky. The repetative, obsessive behaviours could be PTSD.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Australia's problem with racism Reply #122 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends. So back to the question. yes or no?
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Re: Australia's problem with racism
Reply #123 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

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Reply #124 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:36pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:06pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 1:21pm:

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Racism is just an excuse for crisis: Jewish bankers. Bosnian separatists. Chechnyan terrorists. Asian ghettos and Abos getting all the benefits.

You left out 9/11.

You're right, I did. But I'm not sure if anti-Islamic sentiment is an example of racism. I guess it could be, but how do you link Ayrabs like Saddam with, say, Macassan sea traders?

Anything's possible.

Anti-religious group isnt racism because religions arent races.

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Reply #125 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:37pm

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Or if that one causes you too much anguish to admit, how about this one:

If a blokes country was invaded, his ancestors displaced or massacred. His people marginalised, impoverished, living on the fringes of society, would he be likely to develop some animosity to the invaders?

yes or no?

Aha! yeah like the palestinains dont like the jews very much - wonder why?

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Reply #126 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

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Reply #127 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

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Reply #128 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:53pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

SOB

Hmm...I'll need a little clarification before I can answer that - Do you mean like how aborigines hate whites because of what happened to their ancestors back in the 1700's?

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Reply #129 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:54pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

SOB

So you would be keen to forgive in these circumstances?

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Reply #130 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:56pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:53pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

SOB

Hmm...I'll need a little clarification before I can answer that - Do you mean like how aborigines hate whites because of what happened to their ancestors back in the 1700's?

Yeah thats a good example. Not all do though.

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Reply #131 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:57pm

FriYAY wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

SOB

So you would be keen to forgive in these circumstances?

If the abuse has stopped . . . . .

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Reply #132 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:06pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:57pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

And how about his children and their children? Should they continue the proud tradition of hating who their parents hated even thought he world has changed and it didnt happen to them?

SOB

So you would be keen to forgive in these circumstances?

If the abuse has stopped . . . . .

SOB

Turn the other cheek and forgive hey.

Darn Christian of you.

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Reply #133 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:09pm

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

... wrote on Jul 10^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

Thanks for your concern, but I get by with a little help from my friends.

Are they the ones getting spat at in the Aboriginal neighbourhoods?

I agree, Honky. It must be terrible for them. I'd recommend they get tested for AIDS.

You're okay though - nice white neighbourhood, where all the ardent anti-racists come from. Quite fortunate, really.

Maybe your trauma was caused by something else.

Still no answers eh?

Well, how about this:

say a bloke was sent to a concentration camp, where he was worked within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers befor ebeing thrown naked into a mass grave.

Would you consider it unusual for him to hold a grudge against those responsible, or at least an aversion to symbols he relates to that group?

Yes?

or No?

Excellent example, Honky. What you seem to be saying is that, based upon your own experience, we should hate someone who was worked to within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and witnessed his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Good point, but would I expect someone like that to hold a grudge against all caucasian people because of their race?

Of course! Based upon his experience, I would expect him to find another caucasian person, work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Then, based upon his experience, I would expect him to find a similar caucasian person, work him within an inch of his life, with little or no food and water, and make him witness his family and friends being murdered in gas chambers before being thrown naked into a mass grave.

Is this why you advocate racism?

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Reply #134 - Jul 10^th, 2012 at 4:10pm

Well, one of the benefits of having kids is that you influence them, and that can include teaching them to hate all the things you hate. However, you will note that I said "influence" rather than "dictate to", because they are individual, sentient beings rather than blank slates to be programmed at your will. And if they don't see reason to continue your "traditions" they will likely rebel against them. Thus, if I tried to teach my daughter to "hate" abos, but this conflicted with her own experience/outlook, she'd likely get herself knocked up by one, just to piss me off.

So, the answer is to guide them, as opposed to telling them how and what to think. This means not drumming slogans into them like "we are all equal" but presenting the facts, such as that a majority of aborigines are unemployed, have IQ's bordering that of the clinically retarded, or that they have a relative propensity towards violence and petty crime, for them to build into their own assessment.

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