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Calls for a greens smack down in labor
Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:50am

Labor think that people will forget once they get out of bed with the greens. Only problem is, is that labor will be in a coalition with the greens, right up to the next election.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard's close link to the Greens Party has reportedly been challenged by the party's New South Wales secretary Sam Dastyari.

In what News Limited describes this morning as a declaration of war on Ms Gillard's alliance partner, Mr Dastyari says Labor should consider preferencing the Greens last at the federal election.

News Limited says the call was made without consulting the Prime Minister.

Mr Dastyari describes the Greens as extremists not unlike One Nation and says Labor must stop treating them like they are part of the family.

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Politics/2012/07/07/NSW_Labor_calls_for_war_on_G...

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Reply #1 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:56am

Good luck with that one..the Greens hold the balance of power no matter whos in govt and given that their support is holding up well while Labor and Liberal support is all over the place like a mad womans breakfast they will hold the balance of power for a very long time.
No one needs to be in bed with the Greens..Labor and Liberal are both Green bitches

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #2 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:02am Just goes to that Gillard has no authority or credibility in Labor. They've all got a knife in her back - dead woman walking - will be out by the end of the year.
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Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor
Reply #3 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:03am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Good luck with that one..the Greens hold the balance of power no matter whos in govt and given that their support is holding up well while Labor and Liberal support is all over the place like a mad womans breakfast they will hold the balance of power for a very long time.
No one needs to be in bed with the Greens..Labor and Liberal are both Green bitches

lol yeh right and all it takes it to say 'go away you little bitch' and there the greens go. Away. Now thats strength of the greens. They have nothing without the big 2, nothing lol.

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Reply #4 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:10am

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Good luck with that one..the Greens hold the balance of power no matter whos in govt and given that their support is holding up well while Labor and Liberal support is all over the place like a mad womans breakfast they will hold the balance of power for a very long time.
No one needs to be in bed with the Greens..Labor and Liberal are both Green bitches

lol yeh right and all it takes it to say 'go away you little bitch' and there the greens go. Away. Now thats strength of the greens. They have nothing without the big 2, nothing lol.

Their vote is steady and will remain so as long as they stick with their principals.
Abbott has made sure that any co operation between the two major parties wont happen again for a very long time if ever again so the Greens have Abbott to thank for their hold over policy.
Political parties have long memories so the Libs cant expect Labor to vote with them on anything now the precedent has been set.

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Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor
Reply #5 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:25am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:03am:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Good luck with that one..the Greens hold the balance of power no matter whos in govt and given that their support is holding up well while Labor and Liberal support is all over the place like a mad womans breakfast they will hold the balance of power for a very long time.
No one needs to be in bed with the Greens..Labor and Liberal are both Green bitches

lol yeh right and all it takes it to say 'go away you little bitch' and there the greens go. Away. Now thats strength of the greens. They have nothing without the big 2, nothing lol.

Their vote is steady and will remain so as long as they stick with their principals.
Abbott has made sure that any co operation between the two major parties wont happen again for a very long time if ever again so the Greens have Abbott to thank for their hold over policy.
Political parties have long memories so the Libs cant expect Labor to vote with them on anything now the precedent has been set.

Yep, same 10%'er nutters, year in year out. The only change is 2 - 3 % of idiots that goes up and down (a cycle of looking for new and saying bugger those loons), but the same 10% stay there.

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Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor
Reply #6 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:33am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Good luck with that one..the Greens hold the balance of power no matter whos in govt and given that their support is holding up well while Labor and Liberal support is all over the place like a mad womans breakfast they will hold the balance of power for a very long time.
No one needs to be in bed with the Greens..Labor and Liberal are both Green bitches

1. Liberal support is all over the place? Is that why thirty vote has been in the mid to high 40s for well over a year now, and Labor's has been in the high 20s to low 30s?

2. The Greens hold only 9 out of 76 Senate seats, and may not hold the BOP after the next election.

3. The Greens are only as powerful as Labor allows them to be. If the continue to vote with the Greehs in opposition, then they can kiss government goodbye forever. If they admit that they were too close, and sever ties with the greens, then they may rebuild. The greens are an albatross around the necks of Labor, and they need to cut them loose for their own benefit.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #7 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:35am I heard that KAP, Xenophon and the DLP may hold the BOP post next election. I would be very happy with that, Nick X is dead againay the carbon tax, and KAP and the dLP obviously have conservstive values. John Madogan is a lovely and decent man, too.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #8 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:54am they still havent explained Browns early departure. something rotten in the state of Denmark me thinks... he sure has disappeared... probably trying to contact Ron Hubbard and all those aboard Halleys Comet last time it passed our way.. coooooooeeeeeeeeee booby..
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #9 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 9:54am Nothing like a good smack down - especially a Greens smack down
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woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #10 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:30am 2 elections within 6 months will see the demise and extermination of the greens in both houses. DD. Bring it on.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #11 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:32am woof woof wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:30am: 2 elections within 6 months will see the demise and extermination of the greens in both houses. DD. Bring it on. Yep...a DD will see Green voters abandon them so the Libs can control both houses
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor Reply #12 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:45am Brillant. Can you see Liberal Voters preferencing Gillard and Labor Voters preferencing Abbott. So that means a vote for Lib is a vote for Lab and vice versa ... making The Greens and Independents the Alternative Government. Greens are playing the old party's perfectly.
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Re: Calls for a greens smack down in labor
Reply #13 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:59am

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

Brillant.

Can you see Liberal Voters preferencing Gillard and Labor Voters preferencing Abbott.

So that means a vote for Lib is a vote for Lab and vice versa ... making The Greens and Independents the Alternative Government.

Greens are playing the old party's perfectly.

At least another 2 seats for the Greens at the next election...yep a DD is gonna turn everyone against them so the Libs can bring back workchoices Grin

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Reply #14 - Jul 7^th, 2012 at 3:34pm

These are the facts on DD elections in Australia, the outcomes are FAR from the promised land scenario the conga line fantasise about. I say if phony tony did manage to win gov bring on a DD bring it on, phony tony.

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There have been six double dissolution's since federation and one joint sitting.

In 1914 and 1983, the government lost the election that followed the dissolution and no further action was taken on the disputed bill or bills.

In 1951 the government won the election with a majority in the Senate and so the deadlock was broken in that way.

In 1974 and 1987 the government won the election but did not have a majority in the Senate. In 1974 the six bills that had been the basis for a double dissolution were passed by the one and only joint sitting. In 1987 the government decided not to proceed with the bill after all.

So only once, in 1951, did a gov win a DD with a senate majority and break a deadlock. good luck conga dancers. Grin

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