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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #30 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:03pm

john_g wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Gist wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 4:40pm:

Slow news day eh? I guess you righties can't find another boat that you can clamour to have machine gunned or someone to die on TV to give you a good belly laugh.

Meanwhile, day 4 and we still have power. It's a miracle! Maybe Abbott was praying for me? Tim Tams are completely gone though. May need to venture out to see if I can scavenge some before our energies completely run out.

Damn this python strike!

Or death squeeze.

Or whatever it is.

This isn't about left vs right, or Labor vs Liberal. It's about Thomson (and somehow now Oakeshott) against all other pollies, regardless of persuasion.

No it isn't. It's about having a yet ANOTHER whine about Thomson because you can't think of anything else to whine about.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #31 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #32 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #33 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #34 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

how can you respond RATIONALLY to such an IRRATIONAL comment that voters have a 'duty' to re-elect labor. you dont quite see mto get the whole 'choice' aspect of democracy. that explains why you are a green, who are supporters of dictatorship.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #35 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:43pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

how can you respond RATIONALLY to such an IRRATIONAL comment that voters have a 'duty' to re-elect labor. you dont quite see mto get the whole 'choice' aspect of democracy. that explains why you are a green, who are supporters of dictatorship.

It's not about reelecting labr, although that is what I hope, but I know that there's no chance as long as hey keep Julia. It's about keeping those men, in particular, after the great duty they've done for our nation. You sound like my ex wife the nasty piece of work she iw, saying she,s going to call me up and laugh when the Coalition win, and is going to campaign for the LNP, to have Rudd thrown out. Nasty and bitter, that's the conservative way.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #36 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:48pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

how can you respond RATIONALLY to such an IRRATIONAL comment that voters have a 'duty' to re-elect labor. you dont quite see mto get the whole 'choice' aspect of democracy. that explains why you are a green, who are supporters of dictatorship.

It's not about reelecting labr, although that is what I hope, but I know that there's no chance as long as hey keep Julia. It's about keeping those men, in particular, after the great duty they've done for our nation. You sound like my ex wife the nasty piece of work she iw, saying she,s going to call me up and laugh when the Coalition win, and is going to campaign for the LNP, to have Rudd thrown out. Nasty and bitter, that's the conservative way.

so your complaint is about your EX??? why not keep your petty arguments to yourself!

and what you call 'great duty', most people call 'insufferable arrogance and breathtaking incompetence'. rudd and swan are two of the worst performing ministers in our history.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #37 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:52pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 3:59pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 3:47pm:

The question should be should any MP who fails to represent their electorate with distinction worthy of a salary of X.

So, if I had to list a couple each way.
Oakeshott, Windsor, Katter - Yes.
Thompson - No.

I dont have to like Oakeshott, but I respect the man because he is at least up front and honest, and represents his electorate with distinction and gusto. Thompson has mere disgraced his own.

Cannot argue with your reasoning there Verge.
However who will you make the judge of who represents & who does not?

Plenty of sleeping goes on , on both sides.

I'd say the electorate is the ultimate judge. If they're not good enough vote em out next time.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #38 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

how can you respond RATIONALLY to such an IRRATIONAL comment that voters have a 'duty' to re-elect labor. you dont quite see mto get the whole 'choice' aspect of democracy. that explains why you are a green, who are supporters of dictatorship.

It's not about reelecting labr, although that is what I hope, but I know that there's no chance as long as hey keep Julia. It's about keeping those men, in particular, after the great duty they've done for our nation. You sound like my ex wife the nasty piece of work she iw, saying she,s going to call me up and laugh when the Coalition win, and is going to campaign for the LNP, to have Rudd thrown out. Nasty and bitter, that's the conservative way.

so your complaint is about your EX??? why not keep your petty arguments to yourself!

and what you call 'great duty', most people call 'insufferable arrogance and breathtaking incompetence'. rudd and swan are two of the worst performing ministers in our history.

Of course it's not about her. I am just using an example to illustrate the point. Rudd and Swan have been great, and they don't deserve to lose their seats. Ministers shouls not be losing their seats. In the state election, the QLD people owed it to andrew Fraser to re-elect him, as he was wantes by the party to become leader, but instead turfed him out.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #39 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:57pm

MOTR wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:52pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 3:59pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 3:47pm:

The question should be should any MP who fails to represent their electorate with distinction worthy of a salary of X.

So, if I had to list a couple each way.
Oakeshott, Windsor, Katter - Yes.
Thompson - No.

I dont have to like Oakeshott, but I respect the man because he is at least up front and honest, and represents his electorate with distinction and gusto. Thompson has mere disgraced his own.

Cannot argue with your reasoning there Verge.
However who will you make the judge of who represents & who does not?

Plenty of sleeping goes on , on both sides.

I'd say the electorate is the ultimate judge. If they're not good enough vote em out next time.

and with Oakeshotts 35%+ swing against him that is pretty damning evidence that the electorate does NOT consider themselves 'represented'. they wanted Abbott and their supposed rep give them Gillard. The only question that remains is why 14% are still going to vote for him.

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Re: Does craig Thomson deserve $191,000 a year?
Reply #40 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:59pm

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

TheGreenLight wrote on Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:

Of course he does. If you ask me, pollies are well underpayed. They work very long hours, and are payed a pittamce to several other, less gruelling jobs in the country. On the issue of Rob Oakeshott, what a good man. He put the interests. Of the nation above his own personal interests. The people of Lyne have qn obligation to vote him in next election again. I have heard that news is grim for him Windsor, Smith, Swan and Rudd, but these voters all have a duty to reelevt these men.

you are an idiot. although, being a greenie that is noramlly assumed.

obligation... is there anything about democracy that you actually understand?

Why should Ministers like Smith, Emerson, Swan and former PMs like Rudd lose their seats, when they have represented us so well over the last two terms of governments. My ex-wife lives in Griffith, and says she,s longing to vote out Rudd. Disgusting and unappreciative, that's all it is. Oakeshott has represented our nation well, as has Windsor. They put the interests of the country over their own interests. Why should they be punished for that?

you have to be a troll... no one could be that stupid and/or naive.

troll...

Can't even respond with a rational answer?

how can you respond RATIONALLY to such an IRRATIONAL comment that voters have a 'duty' to re-elect labor. you dont quite see mto get the whole 'choice' aspect of democracy. that explains why you are a green, who are supporters of dictatorship.

It's not about reelecting labr, although that is what I hope, but I know that there's no chance as long as hey keep Julia. It's about keeping those men, in particular, after the great duty they've done for our nation. You sound like my ex wife the nasty piece of work she iw, saying she,s going to call me up and laugh when the Coalition win, and is going to campaign for the LNP, to have Rudd thrown out. Nasty and bitter, that's the conservative way.

so your complaint is about your EX??? why not keep your petty arguments to yourself!

and what you call 'great duty', most people call 'insufferable arrogance and breathtaking incompetence'. rudd and swan are two of the worst performing ministers in our history.

Of course it's not about her. I am just using an example to illustrate the point. Rudd and Swan have been great, and they don't deserve to lose their seats. Ministers shouls not be losing their seats. In the state election, the QLD people owed it to andrew Fraser to re-elect him, as he was wantes by the party to become leader, but instead turfed him out.

I repeat... you really dont get the whole representational democracy thing. Labor might ahve wanted Fraser, but the people didnt and the people get to choose. And they didnt want Labor either.

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