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Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

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RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #1 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:17pm Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm: Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling. I should certainly hope that they aren't spending their money on pornography. They can get all they want on the internet for free.
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #2 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:19pm The dole bludgers won't be happy.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #3 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:22pm Quote: Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling. Doesn't say anything about whores and heroin though.
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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #4 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

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RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

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That is ridiculous. How would you like to be retrenched and told how to spend your money?

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #5 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

Quote:

RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

A disgusting, discriminatory plan.

Should never have gotten this far.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #6 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:26pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

Quote:

RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

The Crown is pushing well outside the limitations of its powers to disadvantage Australian citizens economically and will certainly face class action and massive compensation claims.

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Reply #7 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:59pm

None of you Abbottites has a problem with the intervention, so good to see you are supporting this move.
I don't have a problem with it, perhaps they should target long term, multiple recipients in 1 house, than just a suburb approach.
If it's a good enough excuse to try & help Abo's it's good enough to help Bogans.

Don't like it get a job.
Simple I know Kat, but sometimes KISS instead of finding excuses works better.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #8 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:05pm This is an abuse of the power of the Crown, expect massive claims for any attempt to manage my income - just try it, I am itching for a fight - wanna have a go?
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Reply #9 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:07pm

But, judging from this part of the article, it sounds like it will only be done where people request it or where people are unable to manage their finances properly:
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The scheme is voluntary, but it can be made compulsory for people who are falling behind in rent and bill payments or because of child protection issues.

There can't be any argument about the conditions being applied to someone who has asked for it. As for the other option, I suppose the issue there is where is the line between those people who are falling behind in rent and bill payments and those who are not is going to be drawn.

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #10 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:16pm I’m all for cracking down on the obvious bludgers. But this……hmmmmm. My rule would be presenting at centerlink/employment provider in a clean, neat and tidy state – fit for work. When I was forced onto unemployment benefits I had a mortgage. 1st thing i did was give up the choof.
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Reply #11 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:18pm

Any attempt to forcibly manage incomes of Australian citizens will cost the Crown dearly and if you are a well off beneficiary of the crowns benevolence expect to pay dearly for this action. Don't want to pay? Don't mess with the limitations of the law for your own greed or you will pay for it through the nose. Believe me you will pay for it.

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Reply #12 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:21pm

FriYAY wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:16pm:

I’m all for cracking down on the obvious bludgers.

But this……hmmmmm.

My rule would be presenting at centerlink/employment provider in a clean, neat and tidy state – fit for work.

When I was forced onto unemployment benefits I had a mortgage. 1st thing i did was give up the choof.

What you want does not matter, its the limitations placed on the crown and how it can use its power. What I want is to make the crown pay through the nose if it seeks to mess with my legal rights through abuse of its power and by default make you pay for the crowns liability to me.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #13 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:33pm

FriYAY wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:16pm:

I’m all for cracking down on the obvious bludgers.

But this……hmmmmm.

My rule would be presenting at centerlink/employment provider in a clean, neat and tidy state – fit for work.

When I was forced onto unemployment benefits I had a mortgage. 1st thing i did was give up the choof.

Well that explains a lot - drug addict dole bludger huh?

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #14 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:34pm With a bit of luck they'll cut you off fat boy!
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