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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #15 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:37pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:33pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:16pm:

I’m all for cracking down on the obvious bludgers.

But this……hmmmmm.

My rule would be presenting at centerlink/employment provider in a clean, neat and tidy state – fit for work.

When I was forced onto unemployment benefits I had a mortgage. 1st thing i did was give up the choof.

Well that explains a lot - drug addict dole bludger huh?

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But hey, most people on here are used to owning you.

Which, in retrospect, is nothing to be proud of; most of what you write is bollocks.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #16 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:50pm

You can already VOLUNTARILY 'quarantine' your payments by getting Centrelink
to automatically deduct rent, power, gas and a number of other things.

This option has been available for quite some time. I know several pensioners
and unemployed who use it, and they think it's great.

I'd encourage this, but to make it compulsory, THEN try to tell them what
they can spend the REMAINDER on, is simply obscene.

I would make a tentative exception in cases where it is PROVEN that kids
are at risk. No other exceptions.

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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #17 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:57pm corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:18pm: Believe me you will pay for it. We already do. Where do you think Centrelink's money comes from....
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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #18 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:06pm

Kat wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:50pm:

ou can already VOLUNTARILY 'quarantine' your payments by getting Centrelink
to automatically deduct rent, power, gas and a number of other things.

This option has been available fo

how does this work for the alcoholics and druggies kat they make up a huge amount of our unemployed and homeless..

I know you believe in free living for everyone.. but in my book there is no such thing as FREE

I am on a pension and with me its always bills paid first.with others its bills never paid at all.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #19 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:14pm

cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:50pm:

ou can already VOLUNTARILY 'quarantine' your payments by getting Centrelink
to automatically deduct rent, power, gas and a number of other things.

This option has been available fo

how does this work for the alcoholics and druggies kat they make up a huge amount of our unemployed and homeless..

I know you believe in free living for everyone.. but in my book there is no such thing as FREE

I am on a pension and with me its always bills paid first.with others its bills never paid at all.

I'm the same, whether I'm working or not.

And when I'm not, I've found that the voluntary CentrePay system
works well, and I know the bills are always paid.

Pensioners can use CentrePay, too, if they wish.

No, it won't work if you/they don't use it.

But compulsory?

No, thanks! I'm more than capable of managing my money myself.

As are most people, the unemployed included.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #20 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:25pm

cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:50pm:

ou can already VOLUNTARILY 'quarantine' your payments by getting Centrelink
to automatically deduct rent, power, gas and a number of other things.

This option has been available fo

how does this work for the alcoholics and druggies kat they make up a huge amount of our unemployed and homeless..

Why do you say that? Can you back it with anything? A huge amount huh? So all those ppl we have heard about on the news losing their jobs recently are all going out to become drug addicts now? I guess snow they can afford it with no jobs and lots of money.

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #21 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:37pm Kat wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm: A disgusting, discriminatory plan. Absolutely. Ban it for everyone. Why should rich people be allowed vices that are denied to the poor?
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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #22 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 6:34pm cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:06pm: the alcoholics and druggies kat they make up a huge amount of our unemployed and homeless... Can you tell us roughly what percentage that would be?
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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #23 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:05pm

Frances wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 6:34pm:

cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:06pm:

the alcoholics and druggies kat they make up a huge amount of our unemployed and homeless...

Can you tell us roughly what percentage that would be?

With 1 in 20 unemployed it must be around 1 in 25 are homeless drug addicts. It doesn't look like that in my working class area, so things must be terrible where cods lives.

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #24 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:22pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

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RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

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That is ridiculous. How would you like to be retrenched and told how to spend your money?

SOB

It's not something everyone will be on. It's voluntary, with only certain people forced to comply.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #25 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:25pm Wise people know the limits.....a fool stumbles on to destruction...
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29464 Gender:	Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting Reply #26 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:27pm corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:25pm: Wise people know the limits.....a fool stumbles on to destruction... Perhaps you'll be made to go on this scheme?
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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #27 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:28pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

Quote:

RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

'
That is ridiculous. How would you like to be retrenched and told how to spend your money?

SOB

Whose money?

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #28 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:30pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

Quote:

RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

'
That is ridiculous. How would you like to be retrenched and told how to spend your money?

SOB

Whose money?

Exactly. I'd love to tell you how to spend my money, corporate_bludger...

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Re: Welfare ban on Grog, Smokes, Porn & Punting
Reply #29 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:33pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 9:28pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Centrelink begin welfare ban on booze, tobacco
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/centrelink-begin-welfare-ban-on-booze-toba...

Quote:

RENT, bills and food are in but alcohol, cigarettes and gambling are out.
A federal government trial in which Centrelink manages the money of welfare recipients began yesterday amid an angry protest.

Bankstown, in Sydney's southwest, is one of five areas where the trial is being conducted.

It is designed to help allocate Centrelink benefits so that expenses are paid.

Under the government's Stronger Futures legislation, the trials will direct money from some welfare recipients to pay for "priority items" such as food, housing, clothing and utilities.

The remainder of the money can be used as they wish - but with strict exclusions.

Recipients are forbidden to spend their welfare on alcohol, tobacco, pornography and gambling.

Hey, its taken almost 5 years but the Govt has finally got something right................ Cheesy

'
That is ridiculous. How would you like to be retrenched and told how to spend your money?

SOB

Whose money?

The Crown needs to be asking itself that question bforeit makes a big mistake....

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