The only issue is does the Crown have the legal power to charge citizens for CO2 emissions and economically penalize us to an economic disadvantage in what amounts to subsidizing other countries?  The answer is absolutely not, this is an abuse of the very limitations and legal restrictions placed on the Crown to protect citizens rights.  An emissions trading scheme is not an option.

Gist wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:17pm:

Nothing. How so. you made the statement you had evidence or the science has empirical evidence. Show us.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:24pm:

I dont know what the pledge was but is it a zero cost to the house or is it $100million for subsidising a household and they anticipate 1million household takeup.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 3:38pm:

Depends on the price of the solar vs electricity, but no $100 is not a big incentive.

Some info to help along. I think you are missing the point of solar panel or solar hot water systems(and other technology and new ones as they emerge) and that it is $100million per year till 2020

It is $1000 each for 100thousand homes per year. That is better incentive but it doesnt run for 10years so does not equal 1mill homes

One Million Roofs Solar Program
Borrowing a term previously used in California to promote solar energy use,54 a Coalition
Government will provide additional ongoing support for the use of solar energy by Australian
families and households.
Our goal is for one million additional solar energy roofs on homes by 2020, including either solar
power or solar water heating systems.
To achieve the goal of one million additional solar energy roofs by 2020, the Coalition will provide an
extra $1000 rebate for either solar panels or solar hot water systems. The program would be capped
at 100,000 rebates per year and would therefore be capped at a total cost of $100 million per year.
The rebate will be on top of existing incentives and will replace the current solar hot water incentive
when it ends. It is intended that the rebate will remain in place until 2020.
Installing an entry level 1kw solar panel on the average household roof will reduce CO2 emissions by
about 1.8 tonnes per year. Similarly, replacing an old peak electric hot water system with a solar hot
water system will reduce CO2 emissions by up to 3 tonnes per year.
Depending on the proportion of rebates provided for solar heating and solar panel, this initiative will
therefore provide an additional annual CO2 emissions reduction of 2.4 to 3 million tonnes by 2020.
Given their solar energy classification, heat pumps will be eligible under the program.
In consultation with the renewable energy sector, we will also consider the inclusion of ceramic fuel
cells and other new domestic technologies which may emerge.


Information from the Direct Action Plan document
http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Environment/The%2...

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 4:52pm:

Pretty sure if labor can find the money to put us $200BILLION into debt, then liberals could find the small change of upwards of $1billion

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:05pm:

What you just said does not make sense. If you feel likeit, try to put it together a little better or we can just assume by the information I provided, that the liberals are going to come close to what you sad they promised at a rate of $1billion and less.

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 5:11pm:



In summary,   they are providing a rebate that is unfunded and too small to achieve its goals, on a scheme that has been tried and failed before, at the most expensive solution possible.

Epic fail.  Either it will fail, or be a massive cost blowout.