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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #75 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

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bobbythefap1

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #77 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #78 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

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bobbythefap1

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #79 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:37pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

All parties do that???
My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #80 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:46pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

All parties do that???
My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them.

How will you and others do your suggestion.

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bobbythefap1

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #81 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:48pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:46pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

All parties do that???
My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them.

How will you and others do your suggestion.

What by voting for no one?
My suggestion would take people like you to get off your high horse and except reality.

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #82 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:05pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:48pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:46pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:37pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:25pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:52pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 1:42pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:53pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:26pm:

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 12:15pm:

A very sad today for Australia - the day our democracy died. Putting aside al beliefs about climate change, Labor clearly said there would be none.

Matty's moving is symbolic of the many Australians feel - disgsuted, frustrated and just broken hearted by this appalling government.

Looking on the bright side, however, half the year is gone. Just another one of them to go, and it will be election year.

He should have posted his flight number so we could have all waved him goodbye with tears in our eyes

The carbon tax has many victims today..Whyalla and Matty Cry

Yes, democracy being by far the biggest.

Things like the ct are a direct result of not having a real democracy.
Its nothing to do with the parties, but the system under which they operate.

A system of some trust between the people and the parties. If the parties suffiently break that trust, you get what is coming to labor and has come to labor via the states.

So then vote in Libs who do exactly the same thing?
Come on this pointless tug of war has got us no where.
Time for Australia to grow up and stop this pissing contest.
Lib and lab are two peas in a pod.

And your suggestion is...... drum roll. The greens Grin

No.

Well what is your suggestion then.

My suggestion is to keep crushing the party that says 'there will be no ???? in a government I lead' only for them to do it to gain power.

Whats yours.

All parties do that???
My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system.

I can do my suggestion by not voting for the government who did the 'there will be no' thing and letting everyone I know not to vote for them.

How will you and others do your suggestion.

What by voting for no one?
My suggestion would take people like you to get off your high horse and except reality.

So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing.

You want a different system but dont know what it is.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. Reply #83 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:08pm Quote: So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing. You want a different system but dont know what it is. Clarify it for me tho, if you really believed that you wouldn't vote for anyone would you. When did I say I did not know what it was?
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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #84 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:20pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:08pm:

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So you have no idea what it isyou want except to get people to see. That achieves nothing.

You want a different system but dont know what it is.

Clarify it for me tho, if you really believed that you wouldn't vote for anyone would you.

When did I say I did not know what it was?

Well if you cant define what it is at the end of the tunnel for what you said:

Quote:

"My suggestion is to alter the system under which the parties operate and to actually have a democracy where governments are governed by the people and not by the financial system."

Then you have no chance in hell of me following you to your destination. I thought that was the goal.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. Reply #86 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:48pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:23pm: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax. A bit of clean air won't hurt you? The NZ govt supports a price on carbon so Matty should have researched it better
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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #87 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:55pm

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months.

Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks.

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Re: I am leaving Australia because of the carbon tax.
Reply #88 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 4:02pm

falah wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months.

Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks.

There's a left wing of the Liberal Party?

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Reply #89 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 4:03pm

john_g wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 4:02pm:

falah wrote on Jul 1^st, 2012 at 3:55pm:

matty wrote on Jun 29^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

I have decided to leave the shore of Darwin, here in my own home land, and go and live in New Zealand for several months.

Good to see that you are making a positive contribution. Can you please take the right faction of the Liberal Party with you on the way out? Thanks.

There's a left wing of the Liberal Party?

The moderates are a long way to the left of Abbotts hard line neo nationalists

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