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Muslim Found Guilty of Honour Killing
Jun 28th, 2012 at 11:44am
 
'Honour' killing abhorrent, says judge, as man convicted and son starts 18-year term

Louise Hall June 28, 2012






SO CALLED ''honour killings'' have no place in Australian society and must be seriously punished because women are not the chattels or possession of men, a NSW Supreme Court justice has said.

The comment came after a jury found Hazairin Iskandar guilty of brutally murdering his wife's lover in a Leichhardt street in February 2010.

Iskandar stabbed Mohd Shah Saemin, 43, with a knife while his son Andrew, then 19, bashed him with a hammer ''like a piece of meat''.

Iskandar's wife, Nita, had been having an affair with Mr Saemin, her colleague at the Malaysian consulate, and the relationship was widely known within the Indonesian community.

Mrs Iskandar was on the phone to her lover when he was attacked and she heard him cry out for help and a woman bystander screaming.

After the verdict, the non-publication order on the sentence given to Andrew and Mrs Iskandar, 49, in March lapsed.

In jailing Andrew for a minimum 18 years, Justice David Davies said to describe Mr Saemin's death as an honour killing ''invests with it a degree of legitimacy that it does not and can never have''.

The court heard while in custody Andrew told a fellow inmate he killed Mr Saemin because Mr Saemin was having an affair with his mother, which went against Andrew's belief that adultery was unacceptable in Islam.

''No society or culture that regards itself as civilised can tolerate to any extent, or make any allowance for, the killing of another person for such an amorphous concept as honour,'' Justice Davies said. ''The whole basis and origin of honour killings is the notion that a woman is the chattel or possession of a man … such a notion has no place in this country.''

He said Andrew had shown no remorse and his sentence must send a message.

Mrs Iskandar was found guilty of being an accessory after the fact to murder for helping her son to leave the country to evade capture following Mr Saemin's death. She helped arrange plane tickets and gave him money. Andrew was arrested in Singapore and extradited to Australia.

A psychologist, Terry Smith, told the court Mrs Iskandar remained in denial about her son's role in her lover's death and did not believe she was committing an offence by assisting him to leave the country.

''I am very sorry a man has lost his life because of the jealousy of my husband: my heart grieves for his family and I have lost the man I love … my sin to have a relationship has punished my family too much: I just want my son home,'' Mrs Iskandar told Mr Smith.

In sentencing Mrs Iskandar to just under two years, wholly suspended, Justice Davies said Mrs Iskandar was trapped in a loveless marriage and her husband refused to grant her a divorce.

He said her actions to protect her son ''are understandable, if not excusable''.

During the trial, Nada Bailey, who was walking home along Marion Street, told how Mr Saemin stumbled towards her yelling ''help me'' before tripping on a gutter and falling onto his back. Ms Bailey put her body over his to try and protect him but she was kicked out of the way. Justice Davies recommended she be considered for a bravery award.

Hazairin Iskandar will face a sentencing hearing on September 14.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/honour-killing-abhorrent-says-judge-as-man-convicted-and-son-starts-18year-term-20120627-212w5.html
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Re: Muslim Found Guilty of Honour Killing
Reply #1 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 11:49am
 
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women are not the chattels or possession of men, a NSW Supreme Court justice has said.



eh wot?  These judges are just sooo out of touch.

Seriously though, does this really qualify as an "honour killing"?  he didn't kill his wife - he killed the dog who was rooting her.  Perhaps a little OTT, but the sentiment is understandable, even expected.
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Reply #2 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 12:09pm
 
... wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 11:49am:
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women are not the chattels or possession of men, a NSW Supreme Court justice has said.



eh wot?  These judges are just sooo out of touch.

Seriously though, does this really qualify as an "honour killing"?  he didn't kill his wife - he killed the dog who was rooting her.  Perhaps a little OTT, but the sentiment is understandable, even expected.


Apparently so,

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An honor killing, or honour killing[1] (also: honor murder[2][3]) is the homicide of a member of a family or social group by other members, due to the belief of the perpetrators that the victim has brought dishonor upon the family or community. Honor killings are directed mostly against women and girls, but have been extended to men.

The perceived dishonor is normally the result of one of the following behaviors, or the suspicion of such behaviors: dressing in a manner unacceptable to the family or community, wanting to terminate or prevent an arranged marriage or desiring to marry by own choice, especially if to a member of a social group deemed inappropriate, engaging in heterosexual acts outside marriage and engaging in homosexual acts.

Many women's groups in the Middle East and Southwest Asia suspect that more than 20,000 women are killed each year.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

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Reply #3 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 2:04pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
... wrote on Jun 28th, 2012 at 11:49am:
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women are not the chattels or possession of men, a NSW Supreme Court justice has said.



eh wot?  These judges are just sooo out of touch.

Seriously though, does this really qualify as an "honour killing"?  he didn't kill his wife - he killed the dog who was rooting her.  Perhaps a little OTT, but the sentiment is understandable, even expected.


Apparently so,

Quote:
An honor killing, or honour killing[1] (also: honor murder[2][3]) is the homicide of a member of a family or social group by other members, due to the belief of the perpetrators that the victim has brought dishonor upon the family or community. Honor killings are directed mostly against women and girls, but have been extended to men.

The perceived dishonor is normally the result of one of the following behaviors, or the suspicion of such behaviors: dressing in a manner unacceptable to the family or community, wanting to terminate or prevent an arranged marriage or desiring to marry by own choice, especially if to a member of a social group deemed inappropriate, engaging in heterosexual acts outside marriage and engaging in homosexual acts.

Many women's groups in the Middle East and Southwest Asia suspect that more than 20,000 women are killed each year.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing



So if a Muslim kills the bloke rooting his wife, it's an "honour killing" which "must be severely punished".

If a Christian does it, then it's just a vengeful murder, which is presumably OK?
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Reply #4 - Jun 28th, 2012 at 4:25pm
 
And what's wrong with honour killings? It is part of the rich culture/religion that muslims bring to our country. Oh how we love multiculturalism.

I embrace FGM, hand chopping, public hangings, and lapidations. All these totems of islam will enrichen Australia.
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