I don't know where you get the idea that Hayne is a show pony and not a team player. Often at the Eels he has had to play 5/8 and fullback at the same time because the Eels halves have been incompetent. Can you show me where he has not been a team player?

Nairbe is right. Hayne, like Gasnier and even Marshall are players that exhibit too much 'individualism' and are not cohesive with other team members in a 'team' sport.
The only 'individual' should be the Coach, as Meninga is showing: Meninga + QLD side.
Whereas its Stuart, Hayne, Gallen, etc, etc, etc.
Too many guys who are used to winning a game by themselves.
Bennett put Gasnier in line with St George saying "The team isn't here for you!". Gasnier sulked most of the year and then fled to France for an ego boost.

These type of players are only interested in their personal glory and contractual fee rises - NOT NSW. I mean, lets face it, who gives a shite about the Kangaroo jersey anymore? So why bother about the Blues jersey? Its all about the 'Club' now. ((NRL has gone in the wrong direction for fear of AFL ...thanks mostly to Gallop & Co))

Anyway - McGaw would have too much TV flair to outshine any of those players who think they are automatic 'celebrities'. They didn't call him 'Sparkles' McGaw for nothing and why he kicked on well as 'Hammer' in the Gladiators and why he works with Entertainment Wrestlers amongst other elite sportspeople. He knows his shite !

Stuart comes from Rugby Union: where the Refs get decisions right 80%+ of the time.
In League - you must play 'beyond' the Refs. In fact, you must play as if the Ref has already awarded the QLD's a penalty try! Just like you must win by knockout against Team Fenech or Anthony Mundine himself, because everyone knows that you won't win by the Ref scorecards. Fact!

So NSW must focus the Individualism upon the Coach and make the team play as a 'team'!
Navy Divers only choose the 'Grey Zone' recuits, not the worst and not the best. For the best can never gel as a team.

So if bringing in a unknown country player like Troy Preston, in place of Jarrod Hayne because he is more suited to the 'team' manouver - then so do it!

Stuart is a short-tempered fuse and Hasler has no personality at all.

Unless Sterling comes down from the Box (someone who everyone considers as potentionally 'the' greatest Coach, if ever he does)
...then Mark 'Sparkles/the Hammer' McGaw is the only person I know that can Coach NSW to outright victory:3-0 and by convincing scores of  20+ points beyond the opposition !!!

Sadly, I don't know how to get this view into constructive action. I don't know if McGaw or the NSWRL will ever see these posts, etc??
Even with Hasler next year - QLD will still win, because...  BIG BABY MAL 'smell my finger' MENINGA
wants his PERFECT 10 and nobody gonna say no to BIG BUBBA eh

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I'd still like to see specific examples of this 'not a team player' from Hayne.

It is the job of the halves like Marshall and Hayne (when he plays the 5/8 role) to exhibit 'individualism.' Just like Thurston does for Qld. Their job is to steer the team around the park, giving them orders. The forwards job is to run the ball up and tackle. The centres, wings, and fullback, in most incidences, only complete plays set up by the halves. Again, it comes back to the 'individual' brilliance of the halves to set up tries.

NSW can't really compete with Qld because they basically have the Australian team in their side, particularly the backline.

nairbe wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:12pm:


Considering Hayne plays on the wing for NSW he's hardly going to win the game for them.

I'm still not convinced he's not a team player. You've provided no specific examples of it.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:



Now why did the Raiders win?
Because they were a 'team' and not a pack of individuals

In that game with 12 minutes to play the tigers were leading by 12 points and the referee panalised a tigers player (Maguire) for using a canberra player as a shepherd - possibly the worst refereeing decision I have ever seen to change the result of a GF.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:54pm:



Nobody said they are corrupt but you chose a poor example by using that game where the result was determined by a refs error - it does happen, I don't particularly care just a poor example

Des Hasler, along with Folkes and Pearce were the 'in' fit guys during their day. They didn't play 80min games - they played 120min games in their mind.

This is the secret behind Hasler's 'Manly' success - he trained ...oops, I mean Coached - the team to play for the long haul and that's why statistically they won their matches mostly in the 2nd Half.

I just think he is too passive, and unlike angry ant Stuart - I think he will find it hard to come to grips with the fact that, although the Ref might be on his side - the crowd have lost 'interest' and faith in their team. He'll blame the lack of 'support' for his loss to QLD. I think that's why he left Manly too?

So with just one series left for Meninga to gloat x10 in a row: Decade of Destruction!
In steps Mark McGaw ...and you watch Meninga cry.

Swagman wrote on Jul 26^th, 2012 at 12:54pm:



Well that has to rule him out.