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Jun 19th, 2012 at 8:44pm
 
Accommodating a criminal culture, among us....

Q.
Should we [Australia] be compelled to accommodate members of a criminal culture, or otherwise, suffer the accusation of being called 'racists' ?

Q.
Should we [Australia] blithely accept the criminal behaviour of immigrants who have come to this country, or otherwise, suffer the accusation of being called 'racists' ?



Just a few weeks ago, i remember seeing [recorded vision, on Channel 7 ? ] a particular incident on a TV news report, of a black [African] man [at night] being arrested [for what was deemed, by police on the spot, to be criminal behaviour], and the black man is clearly seen vigorously resisting [his own] arrest, by the police officers, and the black man can be heard to be making [in clear and good English] a charge against the police, that the police are racist, and that the police are only arresting him because he is a black man.


An argument;
#1 = = people of culture 1 [the hosts]
#2 = = people of culture 2 [the guests]
What happens when the people[2] of a particular culture, come to live among people[1] of another culture ?

What is going to happen [during cultural 'interactions'] when the people of one cuture[2] believe [within themselves, because they have been taught by their own culture[2] ] that it is lawful, to criminally and violently prey upon the people of another culture[1] ?

What is going to happen if you[2] are taught by your culture[2], that it is lawful [within your culture[2]] to steal from people[1] who do not belong to your culture[2] ?

What is going to happen, if your culture[2], has taught you that it is lawful to abduct and rape the children and the women of the culture[1] who do not belong to your culture[2] ? [e.g. Bilal Skaf, and co. "...they had no right to say no."]

What is going to happen if the people of culture[2], come to live among the people of culture[1], BUT, the people of culture[2] have no ['inward'] respect for the mores and laws of the people of culture[1] ?

Dictionary;
mores = = the customs and conventions of a community.



Q.
How can we 'accommodate' [i.e. host] a people from another culture[2], when that other culture[2] teaches its members, that it is lawful for their members to violently prey upon the people who are members of another culture[1] ?

Q.
How can we 'accommodate' [i.e. host] a people from another culture[2], when those people, who are members of another culture[2], ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGE A CLEAR CRIMINALITY [by our laws] ON THEIR PART, but will instead, attack us, culturally, by calling us 'racist' when we criticise their >> CRIMINAL << behaviour among us ?

A.
We[1] can NOT, and we[1] must NOT, accept such criminality among us. [....i.e. A culture of criminality, and then portraying themselves[2], as the >> victims <<, of 'racism', when their behaviour is challenged and [properly] censured.]




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IMO, our broader society and our individual communities, are rapidly descending into open lawlessness and open violence.

Is that characterisation of our society an exaggeration ?


And if that characterisation is accurate, what can be done, if anything ?

IF WE WANT PEACE [in our communities], then we [as individuals] must choose >> to separate ourselves << from those who choose to embrace LAWLESSNESS.

This argument [of a 'cultural' clash] is >> NOT << about those people being from a different race, or about those people being from a different culture.

And this argument is not about 'racism'.

But this argument >>is << about LAWLESSNESS, and whether we choose to now accept a 'culture' of LAWLESSNESS, among us.

It is about whether we now choose to accept a 'culture' of LAWLESSNESS being >> imposed << upon us.

And this argument >> is << about people from a different race or from a different culture, making a conscious choice to reject the mores and laws of our [host] culture.
[e.g. The choice, by immigrants, of coming to our country, and yet refusing to accept and embrace the mores and laws of our culture.]

[And by the way, i also acknowledge, that today there is a culture of lawlessness that is found among some [many?] Anglo and European 'Aussies'.]

IMO, it is the widespread embrace of LAWLESSNESS by the members of a society, that will [morally] weaken and eventually destroy a culture.




...
God's 10 commandments - which were instituted [if adhered to] to guide a human society to peace and justice, and strength




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CONTINUED FROM LAST POST.....


SOME 'ISSUES' RELATED TO CULTURAL LAWLESSNESS [cultural predation, upon 'others'], below...




ON 'LAWFUL' RAPE [THAT IS SOMETIMES CULTURALLY SANCTIONED]...

"....attacks on girls as young as 13.... they had no right to say no. They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed:
...I’m not doing anything wrong."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825922999.html

"....Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are....living in an infidel country."

By  Abul Kasem
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/SexualityinIslam.htm

"......A Muslim man commits rape if and only if he has sex with a Muslim woman....Having forced sex with an infidel woman does not at all constitute rape, Islamically speaking."

By  Abul Kasem
http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/MeatImam.htm

Google;
"they had no right to say no"

Google;
"rape jihad"

Google;
beslan children raped jihad


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'ITS OK TO STEAL FROM THOSE WHO ARE NOT OF OUR CULTURE'....

News items...

Aust
Three charged over alleged Islamic school fraud offences totalling more than $3 million.
Jun 27, 2008

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/27/2288006.htm

UK
"Even paying car insurance was seen as supporting the system. All the (Saviour Sect) brothers drive without insurance, he said....."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html

Aust - and yet another 'racist' policeman is 'exposed' by an honest moslem community leader. /sarc off
Consider the 'example' which is being driven home, to his own moslem community, of how his fellow moslems should 'respect' 'Australian laws, by a prominant 'Australian'[???] moslem community leader.
[who is he? think 'cat meat']...
"2003
Mufti arrested after police struggle
Police will summons the spiritual leader of Australia's Muslim community, following a struggle with a highway patrol officer in Sydney's west yesterday morning.
...Police say the car was found to be unregistered and uninsured and a struggle followed."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200301/s758587.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s758722.htm

March 12, 2007
Australia: Hardline clerics urge tax cheating
"Some Muslims in Australia apparently believe that only dhimmis pay taxes. "Hardline clerics urge tax cheating," by Richard Kerbaj in The Australian, with thanks to Dylan:
    HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21371194-2702,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/015618.php

Consider;
If even 'Australian'[???] >> moslem community leaders << say [within their own community] that it is 'offensive' for moslems to obey our laws and for moslems to pay [their] taxes, then where is the 'up side' [for our Australian community] in our relationship with the members of such a culture ?

If you take such an argument [i.e. 'We don't have to obey your laws.'] to its logical conclusion [and you can!], if moslems, those lovers of Sharia, despise our laws, and only respect the laws of their own culture, i.e. Sharia,
....THEN ALL THINGS ARE PERMISSIBLE, IF THEY ARE PERMITTED BY SHARIA.

What 'things' ?

'ALL THINGS' = = many, many, unlawful things, by our laws.

e.g.
Stealing, abduction, rape, murder......are all sanctioned as 'lawful' acts by ISLAM [within an ISLAMIC 'circumstance'], when they are committed against those who are 'not like us', against those who, 'do not believe, as we believe'.





What we believe, determines how we act.

Think about that.

What do moslems believe ?

How do moslems behave ?


e.g.
Anjem Choudary is a UK >> moslem community leader << in the UK, speaking subsequent to the London 7/7 bombings;

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4



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FROM ISLAMIC LAW
[e.g. an act which is murder, in our law, is a 'lawful' killing in ISLAMIC law.]

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b. "Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."



"...A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi



Who, or what, is a harbi ???


Harbi is an Arabic/ISLAMIC word, it means "one under a declaration of war".






n.b.
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

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FROM THE KORAN

The right to take [i.e. steal] the property, of Allah's enemies is 'sanctified'...

The sanction from Allah, is, take EVERYTHING which those 'unbelievers' have, because it belongs to you moslems....

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44


"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27


In the Hadith....
"You should Know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to exile you from,,, this land, so whoever among you owns some property, can sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #009.085.077
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.053.392



The rape of captive women ['sanctified']...

"..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..."
Koran 4.22-24

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."
Koran 33.50

"those whom your right hands possess" = = female captives, of war.



Q.
And who are Allah's enemies. [i.e. who are moslems 'at war' with ??? ]

A.
All non-moslems.   [i.e. "...those who reject Faith."]


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



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CONTINUED FROM LAST POST.....


Q.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONFLICT WITH ISLAM, WHICH MANY NON-MOSLEM COMMUNITIES FIND THEMSELVES EMBROILED IN ???

A.
In the eyes of moslems....

Google;
those who resist islam cause wars and are responsible for them



That, is the twisted logic which all good moslems fully embrace.

It is a 'logic' which is used to justify all of the 'religious' violence which we see being perpetrated [almost every day, and all over the world], by moslems, against those that moslems deem to be 'unbelievers'.

i.e.
"I am a moslem, and i am sanctified, and my actions are sanctioned by Allah, and his law [i.e. Sharia law]."

"If you resist my will [to impose ISLAMIC law upon you], then you are a criminal."



That is a 'logic' [in actual fact, it is an insanity!, and, a 'reality'], which is confirmed by these 3 groups of Koran verses...

1/    "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98
[i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime. And all of 'unbelieving' mankind ['those who reject Faith'], are the declared enemies of moslems.]


2/    "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11
[i.e. The 'criminals' ['those who reject Faith', and reject ISLAMIC law] have no 'lawful' protection, whatsoever.   i.e. 'those who reject Faith', are in effect, outside the protection of ISLAMIC law, they are 'outlaws'.]


3/    "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:...."
Koran 4.74-76
[i.e. Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed as being innately evil by ISLAM, and, by Allah. Therefore the crime of 'unbelief' >> must << be punished, and punishment of 'unbelief' is morally justified, because, Allah has declared, that the 'unbelievers' are in league with the forces of evil in this world. And, in their rejection of the true Faith, the 'unbelievers' are the oppressors [stated in Koran 4.74-76] of the people. [i.e. 'the people' = = moslems!   n.b. non-moslem nations which 'host' moslem communities!! ] ]


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Accommodating a criminal culture, among us....

That, is what our own 'PC' politicians and our own 'PC' 'community leaders', AND OUR 'PC' LAW COURTS, are choosing to do.

IMO, our 'PC' politicians and our 'PC' 'community leaders' and our 'PC' dysfunctional justice system, are morally bankrupt.




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And how many of those "commandments" are relevant in our society? Not stealing and not killing and maybe the not adultery. The rest are useless.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 20th, 2012 at 6:59am:
And how many of those "commandments" are relevant in our society? Not stealing and not killing and maybe the not adultery. The rest are useless.

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Man admits to York dorm rapes in Canada


A York University graduate admitted yesterday
he raped two first-year students during a two-hour sex rampage
where he and a pal broke into several girls’ rooms in the university’s dormitory.

Daniel Katsnelson pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual assault for the Sept. 6, 2007 invasion of the Vanier Residence dormitory during “Frosh Week” when widespread drinking and partying mark the occasion.

The now 27-year-old sobbed in court as Crown attorney Andrew Locke read the disturbing agreed statement of facts in which the two grads prowled from floor to floor, entering five unlocked rooms.
Katsnelson violated two girls
.

He snarled at reporters and photographers afterwards, saying his last two years have been “hell.”

Both men had been drinking and entered the building under the guise of helping an intoxicated friend into his room, court heard.

Katsnelson and long-time friend Justin Connort startled a sleeping 17-year-old as she slept in her room shortly after 2:45 a.m.

“Do you want to get lucky with a couple of Jewish guys?” she was asked.


“He deserves to be in hell — what he has suffered is nothing compared to what I’ve gone through,” the now 20-year-old victim said outside court
when told Katsnelson complained about his life since the charge.

She said her roommate left the door unlocked and she initially thought the assailants were drunken, lost students who posed no threat.

Katsnelson’s semen was identified from the victim’s underwear and her bed sheets, court heard.

Connort pleaded guilty to one count of sexual assault in 2008 and was sentenced to three years in prison.

Katsnelson, now 27, will be sentenced on March 26.

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/01/man-admits-to-york-dorm-rapes-in-canada/
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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:12am
 
US arrests rabbi for raping 7 year old child


The US police have detained a rabbi in the state of Arizona for an alleged sexual assault on a 7-year-old girl in New York ten years ago.

Rabbi Bryan Bramly, 45, was arrested on Tuesday outside his synagogue in Chandler, Arizona.

He is accused of raping the child back in 2000 when he was completing his studies to become a rabbi.

According to the US authorities, the rabbi is now in the police custody in a downtown Phoenix prison awaiting extradition to New York.

“The United States Marshals Service places a high priority on arresting persons accused of sex crimes, particularly those involving children,” US Marshal David Gonzalez said in a statement after the arrest, according to a UPI report on Wednesday.

Adam Schwartz, President and CEO of the Jewish Federation of Greater Phoenix, issued a statement about Bramly’s detention on Wednesday which said, “This is obviously an extremely serious situation and we are very concern for all involved,” Reported ABC15.

The victim reported the alleged rape case to the authorities in August 2009

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/03/us-arrests-rabbi-for-raping-7-year-old-child/
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Reply #7 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:24am
 
The double life of Arthur Koestler, intellectual and sexual adventurer


I have been especially glad to read Michael Scammell's Koestler (Faber, £30). Full disclosure: I commissioned the book as long ago as 1985. Sometimes, Scammell's publisher must have despaired of the project. Actually, the frustrating passage of 25 years has done this enthralling biography two favours.

First, it has contextualised Koestler. The 1930s and 40s now seem as remote as the Middle Ages and the great literary names of those years, such as Sartre, Connolly and Malraux, almost on a par with Erasmus or Mallory. Second, it has healed the wounds associated with Koestler's sexual habits.
Twelve years ago, rival biographer David Cesarani's account of the "rape" of Jill Craigie (Mrs Michael Foot) caused headlines. Now, it is just a contentious part of Koestler's opinion that, as he wrote to his second wife, "without an element of initial rape there is no delight".


According to George Orwell, his friend and Observer colleague, Koestler was an "outstanding figure" of his times. To us, he has become the author of Darkness at Noon and an inveterate ladies' man with an unsavoury penchant for sexual humiliation. Still, Koestler's was an extraordinary career and this is probably the definitive account of a major-minor literary phenomenon. Whether Koestler is the "indispensable intellectual" of Scammell's over-earnest subtitle is a moot point, but he was certainly a great European journalist who deserves a good biography.

Koestler was one of those personalities who occasionally scorches through European literature, a human whirlwind of gargantuan appetites who banked so much experience before he was 40 that the rest of his life was a terrible anticlimax, a difficulty Scammell cannot entirely overcome.

Born a Hungarian Jew in 1905
, Koestler was a child of his century: an emigre intellectual, a celebrity journalist and a dedicated anti-fascist. Everything he wrote was responsive to some extraordinary moment, dramatically inflated by the wind of history. Koestler always had the knack of being in the right place at the right time...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/feb/21/arthur-koestler-robert-mccrum






Women force removal of Koestler bust


A bust of the writer and philosopher Arthur Koestler has been removed from display at Edinburgh University after a recent biography claimed
he had a history of sexually abusing women.


Several newspapers reported that female students at the university had complained about feeling "uneasy" under the gaze of the bronze bust after reading that
Koestler had beaten and raped several women
. Some women's groups had apparently threatened to deface it.

A spokesman for the university said it had been removed for security reasons.

The author of classic novels such as The Ghost in the Machine and Darkness at Noon died, aged 77, in a suicide pact with his wife in 1982.

'Serial rapist'

A biography by Professor David Cesarani which came out earlier this year claimed Koestler was a serial rapist but said his victims did not report it because he was such a respected figure.

Prof Cesarani wrote that rape was "almost a hallmark of his conduct".

The book claimed Jill Craigie, wife of the former Labour leader Michael Foot, was one of Koestler's victims. She has since confirmed the claim...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/244230.stm
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Reply #8 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:27am
 
Strauss-Kahn sex scandal presented on Paris stage


PARIS — Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn's stunning fall from grace will be presented on a Paris stage this week in a play focusing on his sex scandals.

"L'Affaire" "retraces the steps of a man who, at any cost, follows his desires to the end," the play's authors Jean-Louis Bauer and Philippe Adrien wrote on the theatre's website.

"In the beginning there is a dream -- to climb to the highest office. In the end, there is nothing but the horror of the fall, a nightmare," they wrote of the show that plays from Thursday to Sunday at the Theatre de la Tempete.

The play focuses in part on Strauss-Kahn's relationship with his journalist wife Anne Sinclair, who has stood by him through his scandals.

US director Abel Ferrara said this year that he plans to film a Strauss-Kahn movie, featuring Gerard Depardieu as the fallen International Monetary Fund boss and Isabelle Adjani as his loyal wife.

A one-time frontrunner for the French presidency, Strauss-Kahn's career collapsed after his arrest last year on accusations
he sexually assaulted a New York hotel maid.


The charges were eventually dropped but
Strauss-Kahn, 63, has since faced a series of criminal and civil actions in connection with alleged sex crimes.


The hotel maid, Nafissatou Diallo, has launched a civil suit against Strauss-Kahn in New York seeking unspecified damages, while he has in turn filed a $1 million countersuit for malicious prosecution and defamation.

In France, Strauss-Kahn, two businessmen and a police chief were in March charged with "aggravated pimping in an organised gang" for allegedly organising a prostitution ring for orgies in France, the United States and elsewhere.

French prosecutors have also opened a preliminary investigation into accusations he took part in a gang rape in the United States.


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Reply #9 - Jun 20th, 2012 at 10:32am
 
Polanski Victim: Justice "Never Too Late"


Filmmaker Roman Polanski's lawyers filed for his release Tuesday, but he remains behind bars in Switzerland, after fleeing sentencing in the United States 31 years ago on the charge of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl.


That victim, Samantha Geimer, isn't talking right now, but several years ago she spoke to Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman.

Geimer, who was assaulted by Polanski in 1977, has said she's forgiven Polanski and moved on. But in 2003, following news of Polanski's nomination for a Best Director Academy Award for "The Pianist," Kauffman said Geimer was adamant, saying it's never too late for justice to be served.

Polanski's Lawyers File for his Release

Geimer was a young girl who wanted to be a movie star, Kauffman reported. Polanski was one of Hollyood's hottest directors when they met in 1977 for a photo shoot.

Geimer said during Kauffman's interview, "He took topless pictures of me, which I think in the back of head, I was thinking, 'They'll be cropped, or it's in a European magazine, and we all know they show breasts in European magazines.'" Geimer did not tell her mother about the topless photos.

Polanski, basking in the success of his recent film, "Chinatown," starring Jack Nicholson, arranged a second photo shoot - this time at Nicholson's house.

Kauffman asked Geimer, "How did it go from a photo shoot to a rape?"

"Well, the last photos were taken in the jacuzzi," Geimer said. "But then he got in the jacuzzi, and that's when I started realizing that I might be in trouble, or I felt uncomfortable - I knew it didn't feel right.

"So I told him I wanted to get out of that jacuzzi, that the steam was giving me asthma and I couldn't breathe, and I thought maybe he should take me home - I just made that up. So he said OK, you know, come out now and grab a towel, run in the house. That's also when he said 'Well here, take this little, this will help you, little piece of a pill,' to relax my asthma attack."

The pill, Geimer said, was a quaalude. Then Geimer said she had sex with Polanski against her will.


Geimer told her mother, who called police. Polanski was charged with six felony counts.

Facing decades behinds bars, Polanski fled to Europe, where he's been a fugitive until his arrest this weekend.

In an interview with "60 Minutes" correspondent Mike Wallace in 1978, Polanski claimed the sex was consensual.

"She wasn't unschooled in sexual matters," Polanski said. "She was consenting and willing."

But is it too late for justice to be served?

Geimer told Kauffman, "It's never too late. It's never too late to go back and fix something that wasn't done right. It's been too long, but it will never be too late."

In a 2003 Op-Ed for the Los Angeles Times, Geimer wrote, "The one thing that bothers me is that what happened to me in 1977 continues to happen to girls every day, yet people are interested in me because Mr. Polanski is a celebrity. That just never seems right to me. It makes me feel guilty that this attention is directed at me, when there are certainly others out there who could really use it."...



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An Indian man is unrepentant after beheading his daughter with a ceremonial sword in a rage over her relationships with men, police say.

The man surrendered at a police station, carrying the head in one hand and the bloodied sword in the other.

Residents of his village in northwestern India expressed shock as they performed the last rites for the 20-year-old woman.

Police said the father, marble miner Oghad Singh, accused his daughter of bringing dishonour to the family and making it hard to find husbands for her two unmarried sisters.

Women wailing in grief lined the dusty road of Dungarji in Rajasthan state as a procession carried Manju Kanwar's remains to her funeral pyre.

As in many north and west Indian villages, the women, including her mother and four sisters, were not allowed to attend the funeral.

A coroner reattached Kanwar's head onto her body for the funeral.

About 100 men, many of them relatives wearing ceremonial Rajput warrior clan turbans, surrounded
her muslin-wrapped body,
and her brother lit the funeral pyre.

Villagers condemned the father's actions as extreme.

They said the father, his shirt soaked in blood, had carried his daughter's head through the village, describing what he'd done to neighbours.

"He told me that he took the sword out, and when the daughter was all alone in the house he beheaded her with a single stroke and the head fell on the ground," said Narayan Singh, a distant relative.

He said he persuaded Singh to surrender, and took him by motorcycle to a police station.

Police have charged Singh, 46, with murder.

"It was a ghastly sight," officer Ranjit Singh said, describing the father sitting in the station's waiting room holding the head in one hand and the sword in the other.

Police described Kanwar's recent life as difficult and unorthodox for the traditional community of about 1000 just outside the Rajasthani tourist town of Udaipur.

She left her husband from an arranged marriage two years ago and moved back home to live with her parents. She recently began seeing several men, which "disgusted" her father, deputy police superintendent Umesh Ojha said.

When she eloped with one man two weeks ago, her father forced her to return on Sunday and killed her.


http://www.smh.com.au/world/enraged-father-beheads-daughter-with-sword-in-honour...

yep, muslim mentality. the more extreme your behaviour, the more "religious" you are.
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Community service worked for the convicts back when this was a prison colony.

Can be pretty easy on them if they aren't real runs, in which case they need to sort themselves out a tad.
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