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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:13pm Abbott's support is collapsing and Liberals today continued their slide (primary ~ newspoll) Are the two connected. Is Abbott dragging down the Lib primary vote? http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/06/12/1226392/417502-120612-newspoll.pdf
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #1 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:33pm ____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:13pm: Abbott's support is collapsing and Liberals today continued their slide (primary ~ newspoll) Are the two connected. Is Abbott dragging down the Lib primary vote? It is a reflection on the $5billion labor spent to buy a couple of % of votes. Pretty expensive.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #2 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:39pm 51 ... 45 ...46 ... 44 take 3 of each for gnats 48 ... 42 ... 43 ... 41 Been sliding since the end of April. Perhaps people are starting to realising the carbon tax spin from abbott has been a lie.
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Reply #3 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:51pm

And the tide continues to turn against Abbott

El Nino tipped to form in spring

Australia looks set to experience the same weather conditions this year that were responsible for the nation's last devastating drought in the summer of 2009.

The weather bureau say all of its models are pointing to an El Nino weather system forming in October.

Typically, El Nino weather events mean drier conditions across Australia, and despite the plentiful rain along the east coast over the past week, there are still large areas of the country that still have below-average rainfall.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/formidable-el-nino-system-to-form-in-sprin...

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Reply #4 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:07pm

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 10:51pm:

And the tide continues to turn against Abbott

El Nino tipped to form in spring

Australia looks set to experience the same weather conditions this year that were responsible for the nation's last devastating drought in the summer of 2009.

The weather bureau say all of its models are pointing to an El Nino weather system forming in October.

Typically, El Nino weather events mean drier conditions across Australia, and despite the plentiful rain along the east coast over the past week, there are still large areas of the country that still have below-average rainfall.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-12/formidable-el-nino-system-to-form-in-sprin...

Hey deadhorse. Keep off the crank dude. You are getting stranger and less coherent.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #5 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:14pm Abbott's carbon policy is a dud scheme. It will be revealed as voters turn their attention to Australia going back into drought. Abbott has dragged the Libs into a corner. As Abbott's support continues to drop, so will Libs. Because Abbott is holding the Libs back.
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Reply #6 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:46pm

____ wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:14pm:

Abbott's carbon policy is a dud scheme. It will be revealed as voters turn their attention to Australia going back into drought.

Abbott has dragged the Libs into a corner. As Abbott's support continues to drop, so will Libs.

Because Abbott is holding the Libs back.

Pretty hard sell if you are going to go into it expecting the dumb Australians not to know what an el nino is.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #7 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 11:49pm So is it Abbott dragging the Lib's primary vote down? Or is it something else? nearly 15% in about six weeks.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #8 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:14am Why do the Greens and ALP call Bio Ethics and a Permanent Communist Purge, economy based on 19th century philosophy progressive?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #9 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 7:39am corporate_whitey wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:14am: Why do the Greens and ALP call Bio Ethics and a Permanent Communist Purge, economy based on 19th century philosophy progressive? Because tuesday is the four month of the year.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #10 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 9:06am Surely Liberal supporters must have thought this out ... why is your support base collapsing? Is it Abbott, or is it something else.
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Reply #11 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 2:18pm

It's definitely an interesting question that calls for an answer

The fact is according to the latest Morgan poll the LNP Primary vote is LOWER than it was at the last Federal Election, which as we'll all remember they did not win.

Given fewer people are now inclined to give their number 1 to the LNP where do they think they're picking up enough preferences to get them over the line on a 2PP basis?

Food for thought

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #12 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 3:42pm It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election.
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PoliticalReality Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 155 Gender:	Re: Y R Liberals Going Backwards? Reply #13 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 4:02pm ____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 3:42pm: It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss. So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election. We can only hope ...
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Reply #14 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

____ wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 3:42pm:

It must be the Abbott influence and that is why the Right refuses to discuss.

So Abbott is holding the Liberals back ... and probably enough to lose the next election.

They are in some amazing denial. Several of us have said repeatedly that we'd consider voting for the coalition but never under Abbott but they don't want to hear it. It's good to see some numbers supporting that position.

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