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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #45 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:35pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:00pm:

hohoho.

But there's nothing wrong with that, is there?

No, no, of course not! People's personal sexual preferences are nobody's business but their own!

So long as they leave it at their sexual preferences, and don't demand society validate their relationship with their friend/dog/pet rock as equal to a real relationship.

Why is that?

If every homosexual couple in the world were legally married tomorrow, my life would not be affected in the slightest.

What is it that concerns you the most?

Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?

And, why aren't their relationships "real"?

AAAAND here's the exact point where the views of the drones and the thinkers diverge.

You see, the real relationships that marriage "cements" have utility. Homosexual ones do not. Well, unless you count the entirely selfish. However, that's not really comparable to the continuation of our species, is it?

You missed the first part of my post:

If every homosexual couple in the world were legally married tomorrow, my life would not be affected in the slightest.

What is it that concerns you the most?

Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?

Principle mate.

I don't appreciate being forced to lie - to recognise 2 clearly inequal things as equal. I've got an Orwell quote for this situation:

freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4.

Now let me ask you - if every gay couple woke up tomorrow and still weren't legally recognised as married, how would that affect them? They wouldn't be affected in the slightest, would they?

All they'd be missing is a certificate from the government. I thought they wanted the government to "stay out of their bedrooms"?

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #46 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

If then allow a group of farmers to marry their sheep

How would it affect the rest of us in our lives?

See the point....

It's about moral compass not whether you directly are affected.
You could argue my social morality is impacted letting a pair of fellas play house and get married.

I don't want children to grow up thinking its normal.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #47 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

It doesn't affect you if we changed the law along the lines of some of the Arab World where men marry 8 year olds.

You ok with doing that then?

It wouldn't affect you.....

We aren't talking about Arabs or 8 year olds.

Are you capable of answering my question or not?

You're saying we shouldn't care because it doesn't affect us in the slightest.
Neither does my example above.

Using your logic we should be fine with that too?

It's about moral compass and cultural acceptance.

Society's cultural norm is that men wed women and that adults wed and not children.

Both are the same argument.

I'm not talking about children. I don't agree with child marriages, but that's not the point. You are deflecting the issue in a bid to avoid answering the question.

Now, try to stay focused and answer my question. Can you do that or not?

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #48 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:38pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

If then allow a group of farmers to marry their sheep

How would it affect the rest of us in our lives?

See the point....

It's about moral compass not whether you directly are affected.
You could argue my social morality is impacted letting a pair of fellas play house and get married.

I don't want children to grow up thinking its normal.

Can you answer my question or not?

Or, do you wish to continue changing the subject?

Answer my question.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #49 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:40pm

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:27pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:24pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:04pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:00pm:

hohoho.

But there's nothing wrong with that, is there?

No, no, of course not! People's personal sexual preferences are nobody's business but their own!

So long as they leave it at their sexual preferences, and don't demand society validate their relationship with their friend/dog/pet rock as equal to a real relationship.

Why is that?

If every homosexual couple in the world were legally married tomorrow, my life would not be affected in the slightest.

What is it that concerns you the most?

Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?

And, why aren't their relationships "real"?

AAAAND here's the exact point where the views of the drones and the thinkers diverge.

You see, the real relationships that marriage "cements" have utility. Homosexual ones do not. Well, unless you count the entirely selfish. However, that's not really comparable to the continuation of our species, is it?

You missed the first part of my post:

If every homosexual couple in the world were legally married tomorrow, my life would not be affected in the slightest.

What is it that concerns you the most?

Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?

Principle mate.

I don't appreciate being forced to lie - to recognise 2 clearly inequal things as equal. I've got an Orwell quote for this situation:

freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4.

Now let me ask you - if every gay couple woke up tomorrow and still weren't legally recognised as married, how would that affect them? They wouldn't be affected in the slightest, would they?

All they'd be missing is a certificate from the government. I thought they wanted the government to "stay out of their bedrooms"?

Answer my question. Go on, give it a go.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #51 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:42pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

It doesn't affect you if we changed the law along the lines of some of the Arab World where men marry 8 year olds.

You ok with doing that then?

It wouldn't affect you.....

Let me ask the question in a way that even a moron can understand, seeing as you had such difficulty with it previously.

If every single consenting, legal age gay couple got married tomorrow, how would any one's life be adversely affected?

it wouldn't.

Then why would anyone be opposed to gay marriage?

Remember, we're talking about gay marriage here, nothing else.

If it has no adverse affect on any one else, and it makes the gay people happy, why would you object to it?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #52 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm I have answered it about 5 times. I would not be affected, others would not be affected. However that is as relevant as I would not be affected by people marrying their dogs or young children. It is morally wrong.
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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #53 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

It doesn't affect you if we changed the law along the lines of some of the Arab World where men marry 8 year olds.

You ok with doing that then?

It wouldn't affect you.....

Let me ask the question in a way that even a moron can understand, seeing as you had such difficulty with it previously.

If every single consenting, legal age gay couple got married tomorrow, how would any one's life be adversely affected?

it wouldn't.

Then why would anyone be opposed to gay marriage?

Remember, we're talking about gay marriage here, nothing else.

If it has no adverse affect on any one else, and it makes the gay people happy, why would you object to it?

MORAL GROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #54 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm ... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:41pm: WTF? I just did! You're nearly as bad as Borg. "Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?" I didn't see an answer.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #55 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:46pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm: It is morally wrong. (according to you, maybe) And how will that cause any harm? If every gay couple married tomorrow, and it is indeed "morally wrong" as you suggest, how will that affect anyone?
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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #56 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:48pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

It doesn't affect you if we changed the law along the lines of some of the Arab World where men marry 8 year olds.

You ok with doing that then?

It wouldn't affect you.....

Let me ask the question in a way that even a moron can understand, seeing as you had such difficulty with it previously.

If every single consenting, legal age gay couple got married tomorrow, how would any one's life be adversely affected?

it wouldn't.

Then why would anyone be opposed to gay marriage?

Remember, we're talking about gay marriage here, nothing else.

If it has no adverse affect on any one else, and it makes the gay people happy, why would you object to it?

MORAL GROUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?

So, you think it is morally acceptable to deny all of those people their happiness?

Even though their happiness will not affect you or me in the slightest, you think you're taking the higher moral ground by denying them their happiness?

Hmmm, very strange.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #57 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:49pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

... wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:41pm:

WTF? I just did!

You're nearly as bad as Borg.

"Where will the impact be felt the most if they were all to marry tomorrow?"

I didn't see an answer.

Oh pardon me, your majesty.

In my head is where.

Now, there was a question for your good self tacked on there. You will answer it won't you?

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #58 - Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:50pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:36pm:

If then allow a group of farmers to marry their sheep

How would it affect the rest of us in our lives?

See the point....

It's about moral compass not whether you directly are affected.
You could argue my social morality is impacted letting a pair of fellas play house and get married.

I don't want children to grow up thinking its normal.

The old sheep "argument" again. Its nothing like it. Gays are humans. heteros are humans. Sheep are sheep.

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