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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #165 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

... wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

Actually he crushed your 'argument' like a bug. it is basic sociology that a handful of instances of behaviour does not constitute culture per se...

And a new King "dumbshit" steps forward.

Grandmaster Flush said:

"But throughout it's entire history and across all cultures ... "

Read it carefully, Bozo.

He was wrong on both counts.

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Crushed. Like a bug.

Don't take it so hard mate. You'd think you'd have learned to deal with failure by now.

You were wrong on both counts, and you don't even have the brains to understand why.

Classic Grin

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #166 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:11pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

Actually he crushed your 'argument' like a bug. it is basic sociology that a handful of instances of behaviour does not constitute culture per se...

And a new King "dumbshit" steps forward.

Grandmaster Flush said:

"But throughout it's entire history and across all cultures ... "

Read it carefully, Bozo.

He was wrong on both counts.

Roll Eyes

longie

It's the same argument they used with Climate Change

They can't explain the Climate Change that created the 4 Ice Ages but they want to take 200 years worth of data in Earth's 4.5Billion years history to explain AGW.

They take a few isolated incidents and extrapolate it - remember AL Gore's graphs and his cherry picker stunt?

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #167 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:15pm PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:10pm: You're drawing a comparison to underaged girls having their genitals mutilated to a same sex consentual relationship and you're calling me stupid? Hard to imagine such stupidity exists.
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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #168 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:16pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

... wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

Actually he crushed your 'argument' like a bug. it is basic sociology that a handful of instances of behaviour does not constitute culture per se...

And a new King "dumbshit" steps forward.

Grandmaster Flush said:

"But throughout it's entire history and across all cultures ... "

Read it carefully, Bozo.

He was wrong on both counts.

Roll Eyes

Crushed. Like a bug.

Don't take it so hard mate. You'd think you'd have learned to deal with failure by now.

You were wrong on both counts, and you don't even have the brains to understand why.

Classic Grin

I know exactly why you say that, and I've already stated it - because false victory claims are all you've got.

But unfortunately for you, I am not so magnanimous as to let the baby have his bottle, so I will keep pointing out that here, as in life, you have failed.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #169 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

... wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

And so we continue onto the ol "it happened somewhere else, therefore it should/will happen here" argument.

Just what do you think is the slightest bit compelling about that?

It sounds much the same as the ol' "if such and such were to jump off a cliff would you do it too" I used to get from my mother. I understood her point then...why does it elude you even now that you are presumably a grown man?

Look as much as I appreciated the debating tactic:

You raised the issue claiming that marriage has always been about sanctifying the relationship between a man and a woman.

And then when people came back with arguments against that point you then say "well we shouldn't do what other people do or have done"

It's an basic debating technique and you don't use it very well.

To counter the actual argument, I don't really care what the rest of the world has done / is doing. I don't even care what marriage has "always been" in your blinkered view

What I care about is the fact that there is NO logical reason to preclude same sex couples from the act of being married, none, I've asked and I've yet to see a single argument which is actually based on logic.

I don't think governments should have laws which discriminate against anyone, unless there are damned good reasons for it and I'm not seeing any ...

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #170 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 11:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

It doesn't affect you if we changed the law along the lines of some of the Arab World where men marry 8 year olds.

You ok with doing that then?

It wouldn't affect you.....

Let me ask the question in a way that even a moron can understand, seeing as you had such difficulty with it previously.

If every single consenting, legal age gay couple got married tomorrow, how would any one's life be adversely affected?

it wouldn't.

Then why would anyone be opposed to gay marriage?

Remember, we're talking about gay marriage here, nothing else.

If it has no adverse affect on any one else, and it makes the gay people happy, why would you object to it?

what a lameass attitude. consensual pedophilia doesnt affect me either but Im not about to say it is good or that it shoudl be legal.

You seem to stumble over the concept of people having BELIEFS and STANDARDS they subscribe to. while at the same time blindly expecting us to submit to YOUR belifes and standards.

There no such thing as "consensual pedophilia" you idiot, children lack the capacity to give consent, adults don't.
Surely even and idiot on your magnificance can understand this?

in legal terms, yes. in practical terms, no. or do you not realise that for the vast majority of history people got married at 12+? It was consensual there too. Im not supporting it, simply saying that consent is not defined just by law.

Well since this debate is about the law, how about we stick to that?

I'm a little concerned about your belief in consensual sex with underaged children but I'm happy to let that slide in the interest of the debate ...

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #171 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:23pm ... wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:16pm: I know exactly why you say that ... And your white flag has been accepted. Life is good.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #172 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:28pm See? False claims is all you've got. Do your false claims cheer you up when you're down? Do your false claims keep you warm at night? Do your false claims tell you they love you? I almost feel pity for such a wretched, pathetic being, but then I remind myself - you brought it upon yourself.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #173 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:30pm Life is goooood.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #175 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:34pm ... wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:28pm: I almost feel pity for such a wretched, pathetic being ... Meh, nothing wrong with a bit of self pity. Give yourself a treat.
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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #176 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:41pm

PoliticalReality wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

What I care about is the fact that there is NO logical reason to preclude same sex couples from the act of being married, none, I've asked and I've yet to see a single argument which is actually based on logic.

I don't think governments should have laws which discriminate against anyone, unless there are damned good reasons for it and I'm not seeing any ...

The simple, logical reason why homos can't marry each other, is that homos can't marry each other.

Marriage, being the union of man and woman, makes it an impossibility.

If you redefine what marriage is, it ceases to be marriage - it becomes something else. They can celebrate their particular union in a way similar to marriage if they choose, but marriage it is not.

I'm not happy to dismantle, destroy and reconstitute marriage in a new form. There is simply no logical reason to do so.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26588 Australia	Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude? Reply #177 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:48pm Marriage = 2 ppl who make a commitment to each other. Hmmm that works SOB
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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #178 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:50pm

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 12:42pm:

The fact that naming defacto relationships as a marriage, has become commonly accepted, already diminishes and blurs the use of the word marriage, from it's true meaning.

No, it hasn't become commonly accepted, or used . A de facto relationship is called just that because it is not a de jure relationship (ie marriage).

It has taken you an awful lot of words to NOT say that.

ANyway, marriage is not just about the two - or more - people in it. It is most decidedly not a private matter, like wanking is a private matter, or colour prefences or taste in ice cream flavours . It is not just about sex, either. It is not even necessarily about children.

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Re: Why R Homos and Greens so rude?
Reply #179 - Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:52pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 13^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

Marriage = 2 ppl who make a commitment to each other. Hmmm that works

SOB

No it doesn't. If I make a business deal with someone, that fits your defintion perfectly. Marriage is a specific kind of commitment.

Different from a business deal,
Different from boyfriend/girlfriend.
Different from defacto.
Different from one bloke pretending to be another blokes wife.

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