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Yes Mr Abbott You Will Be Held To Account.
Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:20pm
 
Abbott 'deceitful' on carbon tax: Combet.    Sad

    by: Joe Kelly
    From: The Australian
    June 10, 2012


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Climate Change minister Greg Combet says forecast impact of the carbon tax would be less than expected, because modelling could not replace real world experience.

GREG Combet will hold Tony Abbott to account after the carbon tax implementation, should the Opposition leader's predictions of economic catastrophe not eventuate.   Smiley

Mr Combet said the average carbon price in the trade exposed emissions intensive sectors of the economy was only $1.30 a tonne, once government assistance had been factored in.

Attacking Mr Abbott's fear campaign against the carbon tax as "gutless" and "deceitful", Mr Combet said his predictions of economic catastrophe would not eventuate.

"I'm looking forward to post July 1," he said. "Because we're going to take it right up to Tony Abbott and hold him to account for every lie and piece of deceit and every bit of misrepresentation he's engaged in."   

Mr Combet said that the fundamentals of the economy were strong enough to justify the introduction of a carbon price and that millions of households would be better off under the government's compensation package.
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The introduction of a carbon price was a fundamental "question of belief" for the Labor party, with Mr Combet suggesting the party should not walk away from the reform in opposition.

"You run into problems when you walk away from what you stand for," he said.

Mr Combet acknowledged that the government had a "lot of work to do" in arguing its case for the carbon price before the next election, but expected to win over the electorate through the force of its case.

"We plan on winning the next election," he said. "Argue to the community, tell them the facts, argue what you're standing for and bring them along, explain the values that underpin it, why you're doing it - and you can win support."    Smiley

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says he's being realistic, not gloomy, in talking down the economy.

This week delivered a trifecta of good economic news: the national accounts showed the economy speeding along at an annual rate of 4.3 per cent; the biggest monthly jump in full-time employment in 18 months; and a 25-basis-point cash rate cut.

But Mr Abbott denies he is talking down the economy unnecessarily.

"I think I've been absolutely realistic,'' Mr Abbott told the Ten Network.

He said the Opposition was right to pan the carbon and mining taxes.

"Australia's relative economic strength owes far more to the reforms of previous government than it does to the spending spree of the current one,'' he said.

Mr Abbott said the Reserve Bank was not super optimistic otherwise it would not have cut the official cash rate.
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Reply #1 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Combad seems to be shaking in his boots. Why?

63% rejects the carbon tax
57% wants the carbon tax repealed

This means he'll be the fall guy for if/when the ALP loses government.

While he was parachuted into the safe seat of Charleston at 63% - he will be held accountable for the Carbon Tax as will Gillard!!!

Suck that up Combad!!!
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Reply #2 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:29pm
 
Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         



63% agrees with Abbott - suck it up princess
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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:39pm
 
GREG Combet will hold Tony Abbott to account after the carbon tax implementation, should the Opposition leader's predictions of economic catastrophe not eventuate.   Wink    Smiley   
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Reply #5 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:42pm
 
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GREG Combet will hold Tony Abbott to account after the carbon tax implementation, should the Opposition leader's predictions of economic catastrophe not eventuate.   Wink    Smiley   


And the voters will hold Mr Combet to account when it does..
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Reply #6 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 1:53pm
 
The Greens and the ALP will be held to account for 30 years of treason against the people of Australia and selling out our country by stealth to international banks and and world Government.  You are finished in Australia ALP and Greens and so are your policies.  We will hold Abbott to account to repeal the treasonous policies to cede our nation to global Government through climate change and privatization and we will hold him to account to crack down on you.
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Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm
 
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...
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Reply #8 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:47pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm:
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...


100% of what you posted is irrelevant.
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Reply #9 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:21pm
 
well the truth of the matter is this:

it doesnt matter what happens because even if NOTHING eventuated, you'd still be relying on Gillard and Co to advertise the message. And have you ever seen a govt that is worse at advertising is successes and policies? they are truly awful at it.
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Reply #10 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:24pm
 
Gist wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:47pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm:
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...


100% of what you posted is irrelevant.


Between 57% and 63% of people would 100% disagree with you on that...
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Reply #11 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:44pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:21pm:
well the truth of the matter is this:

it doesnt matter what happens because even if NOTHING eventuated, you'd still be relying on Gillard and Co to advertise the message. And have you ever seen a govt that is worse at advertising is successes and policies? they are truly awful at it.


Much as it grates, I do have to agree with you on that. They are.
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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:45pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
Gist wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:47pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm:
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...


100% of what you posted is irrelevant.


Between 57% and 63% of people would 100% disagree with you on that...



57% believed chicken little - till the sky didn't fall?
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Reply #13 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:45pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
Gist wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:47pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm:
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Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...


100% of what you posted is irrelevant.


Between 57% and 63% of people would 100% disagree with you on that...



57% believed chicken little - till the sky didn't fall?


and in a democracy...

oh i forget. it is you. you believe in democracy when the people's opinion lines up with yours and the rest of the time it is this crap. Understand it or not (and you clearly dont) the fundamental nature of democracy is the right of the people to make decisions themselves - even wrong ones. maybe one day you will understand that - along with the definition of 'lie'.
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Reply #14 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 8:18pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:45pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
Gist wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:47pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:43pm:
Quote:
Yes good on you Mr Combet.  We have got Mr Abbott running around saying the sky will fall in.  He should certainly be held to account for his scare tactics.   Sad         


57% disagree with Combet...


100% of what you posted is irrelevant.


Between 57% and 63% of people would 100% disagree with you on that...



57% believed chicken little - till the sky didn't fall?


and in a democracy...

oh i forget. it is you. you believe in democracy when the people's opinion lines up with yours and the rest of the time it is this crap. Understand it or not (and you clearly dont) the fundamental nature of democracy is the right of the people to make decisions themselves - even wrong ones. maybe one day you will understand that - along with the definition of 'lie'.



I think I understand In your definition of a  democracy the sky did fall and chicken little was right?
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