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Re: US Soldier was disgusted with Afghan war & ashamed
Reply #15 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:50pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
Because of people like you.


Ppl like me and pansi? How could me or pansi stop you travelling on an israeli passport?

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People like you and pansi1951 are anti-Jewish, anti-Israel.
You call us terrorists, you call us murderers and you ignore all the atrocities that Israel and the Jews fight against.

You support Muslim terror and want to see our country not there.

Well we ignore you.
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Re: US Soldier was disgusted with Afghan war & ashamed
Reply #16 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:01pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:50pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
Because of people like you.


Ppl like me and pansi? How could me or pansi stop you travelling on an israeli passport?

SOB



People like you and pansi1951 are anti-Jewish, anti-Israel.
You call us terrorists, you call us murderers and you ignore all the atrocities that Israel and the Jews fight against.

You support Muslim terror and want to see our country not there.

Well we ignore you.


I have never said i wanted israel not there. I have only said they should stop their atrocities. Why doesnt israel want peace? Why are they planning MORE settlements?

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Re: US Soldier was disgusted with Afghan war & ashamed
Reply #17 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:02pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:30pm:
Are they some of the ones that were pronounced innocent ten years ago, but for some reason never released?


Don't know and to tell the truth I honestly don't care.


Anyways, after reading up on SGT. Bergdahl I'm really suspicious about this email that was sent to his parents. Some of it is linguistic oddities, some of it is the man's background, and some of it is his actions during his captivity. 

Linguistic oddities:

Some of the bits quoted in the OP article like calling his CO a "concreted old fool". I spent six years in the US Army hanging around Infantrymen and for the life of me I've never heard of a line grunt refer to officers like that.  No, I don't mean that we never smack talk our chain of command.  Soldiers tend to take perverse pleasure in describing at great length and with much vulgarity the manifold failings of the officers appointed over them.  If the email had said "Colonel Soandso is an ass kissing paper pushing POG with delusions of competence who'd gladly toss every swinging-dick in this battalion under a bus if it means he can have his first star" I'd find it believable.  "Conceited old fool" not so much.

Background:

Bergdahl's a native of Sun Valley, Idaho. Dude grew up in mountain country at the foot of one of the biggest ski resorts in the US in a state that has the highest per-capita rate of white supremacist membership in the entire country.  While Military service tends to knock most of the racist out of people, I really doubt that a clean cut white kid from Idaho would actually sympathize with the Taliban without you holding a figgin' gun to his head (turns out they did exactly that in a couple of the videos they released showing SGT. Bergdahl, who knew...).

Actions during captivity:

Last year in September he made yet another escape attempt and was recaptured after three days.  If SGT. Bergdahl was really down with the Taliban and was so disgusted with his country then why the repeated escape attempts? 


Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced someone else wrote the email and sent it one SGT. Bergdahl's email.  though I wonder if they used a civilian mail provider or if they actually used SGT. Bergdahl's AKO account.  Would be pretty damn hilarious if they used his AKO.
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Re: US Soldier was disgusted with Afghan war & ashamed
Reply #18 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:13pm
 
I don't support Muslim, Israeli or American terror. I can safely declare that I am against all forms of terror.

What the hell did the Afghani's do to you?
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Reply #19 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
Chard wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:36am:
My mother is American and she is very proud of America.
My family is American they are very proud of America.
My sister studies in New York she is very proud to be there.

Every USA person I have meet before has always been very proud of their country just like I am too.


http://i.imgur.com/TyNU6.jpg


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Reply #20 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:36pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:36am:
Every USA person I have meet before has always been very proud of their country just like I am too.


What is the difference between arrogance and pride?

Arrogance has been the downfall of many before you.


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Reply #21 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:40pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:36pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:36am:
Every USA person I have meet before has always been very proud of their country just like I am too.


What is the difference between arrogance and pride?

Arrogance has been the downfall of many before you.





Arrogance is attacking a country with your friends on their holy day thinking you will win.

What happened?

Arabs and Muslims run like the cowards they are.

How many times before you learn the lesson....

Do not f**k with the Jews.
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Reply #22 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:58pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:40pm:
How many times before you learn the lesson....

Do not f**k with the Jews.


This is a considered a Good Idea™ because depending where in the world you happen to live if you piss off Jews they'll either foreclose on your home or blow it the bugger up.
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Reply #23 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:12pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 1:13pm:
I don't support Muslim, Israeli or American terror. I can safely declare that I am against all forms of terror.

What the hell did the Afghani's do to you?



Defending your country is not terror.
I served in the army for 3 years and saw the result of Muslim terror with my own eyes thank you.

What you have said about Israel is a example of some one who lives too far away, do not know the situation and just parrot what is said by other people.

The Afghans? I only say because they stare at my passport in the immigration office and then stare at my friend and me. We know what they are thinking.

They don't like Israel. That is ok, we don't like them too.
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Reply #24 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:16pm
 
Israeli War Crimes



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White phosphorous similar to napalm used indiscriminately in attacks on Gazans
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Reply #25 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:18pm
 
Are you going to condemn the Shmuel HaNavi suicide bombing of women and children?

Yes or no?
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Reply #26 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:18pm
 
Anyone with a sense of justice doesnt like israel

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Reply #27 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:19pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:18pm:
Anyone with a sense of justice doesnt like israel

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Are anyone who has no idea like you?

You really do not know much about the region, it is obvious.

Spend a day with me in the IDF like I did, you would make a mess in your pants in the 1st hour.
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Re: US Soldier was disgusted with Afghan war & ashamed
Reply #28 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:25pm
 
falah wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:16pm:



Were the soldiers who did this convicted of war crimes?
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Reply #29 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 2:28pm
 
Imagine a Palestinian boy who, as any other boy, liked football, playing in the yard, taunting his sisters, catching flies, running away from the boring lessons at school, etc. All was well with Mohammed Badwan until the the black magic of the Israeli military drastically changed the life of the lad. Here is his picture - during the first encounter with IDF:



The first time the name of the youngster comes up in the Palestinian chronicles is an article (_adalah.org/eng/pressreleases/04_05_03nl.php_) on the Adalah site:


Most recently, on 15 April 2004, the Israeli military used Mohammed Badwan, a 12-year-old Palestinian boy from Biddo, West Bank as a human shield. Mohammed was taking part in a demonstration against the construction of The Wall in Biddo.


Not nice, agreed. But obviously the boy made a lasting impression on the Zionist aggressors, because a week barely passed, and he is used again - and in the same capacity (but now he is an year older). Electronic Intifada (_electronicintifada.net/v2/article2614.shtml_) knows the details:

According to the same sources, on 22nd April 2004, a 13 year old boy called Mohammed Said Essa Badwan/Badran was used as a human shield. Mohammed was peacefully taking part in spontaneous demonstration...


It becomes a habit with IDF (or with young Mohammed) apparently. Or, you can say, an innocent mistake in the date - nothing special.

But the amazing career of young Muhammad is only budding, just wait a bit. He is used again, now, according to Amnesty International (_amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=ar&yr=2005&c=ISR_) report for 2005:


In April, Israeli soldiers used 13-year-old Muhammed Badwan as a "human shield" during a demonstration in the West Bank village of Biddu. The soldiers placed the boy on the hood of their jeep and tied him to the front windscreen to discourage Palestinian demonstrators from throwing stones in their direction.



Notice that he is still 13 years old. Again, it could be a clerical mistake, but the boy shows resilience and is highly reusable in his role of a human shield. This is probably why the Zionists decided to put him in some (hitherto secret) suspended animation machine. Apparently his age plays a critical role in their nefarious plans, since the next record of his appearance relates to 2007 (_lists.resist.ca/pipermail/onthebarricades/2008-April/000480.html_):


Palestinain children as young as 11 were used as human shields during an Israeli military invasion of Nablus in March 2007. 13 year-old Mohammad Badwan was tied by the arm to an Israeli military jeep...


It is Nablus now and three years later, but he is still 13 years old! And March of 2007 sees his return to Bidou in the same role. According to the Live Leak (_liveleak.com/view?i=76d_1173007758_)


Israeli human rights activists have accused border police of using a 13-year-old Palestinian as a human shield. Rabbis for Human Rights say that Mohammed Badwan was tied by police to a jeep during a recent demonstration in the West Bank village of Bidou.

This was posted in March 2007 too. Surely our boy gets around. Besides, is it possible that he's developed some affinity for a specific border police jeep? Because the picture used is usually the same, sometimes cropped and sometimes not.

And if you thought for a moment that the wretched semi-existence of Mohammad, which could be described as frozen - woken up - tied to a jeep - frozen again, has a happy end, you are mistaken, because he was activated again recently - in 2009, according to Pakistani Scandals (_pakistaniscandals.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/palestinian-child-used-as-human-shi
eld-by-israel_):


This is what happened to a Palestinian child who joined Teenagers throwing stones at Israeli border police. Muhammad Badwan was grabbed by officers and tied by an arm to the grille covering the windscreen of their security vehicle. Last night the 13 year olds father said the police had illegally used his son as a human Shield to try to stop the demonstrators throwing stones at them.


There are more events with different dates where Muhammad participated, but I hope you have got the picture by now.


http://simplyjews.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/amazing-life-and-deeds-of-mohammed.html
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