A picture really does say a thousand words. Thanks MOTR.

I have seen the skeptic version a thousand times here on this forum. Of course, they would never use a graph. It is usually something like "on may 10 1964 it was 28 degrees, and on August 16 1996 it was 24 degrees, therefor the earth is cooling". No matter how many times you point out the idiocy, they keep falling for it. Every week there is a different version of the same mistake.

The solar flare plot is also very informative, and very different from the picture painted by the 'skeptics'

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338535202/6#6

mantra wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 5:12pm:


Now you're talking reconstructions. There are some instrumental records that go back past 1860 but they are limited.

MOTR

So the first graph indicates that over 90 years the average temperature has increased by .6 of a degree. The following graph claims that the temperature has increased by nearly 1 degree over 45 years.

It's still a very short period to judge where the temperatures are going especially as they're moving so slowly.

mantra wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 6:11pm:


The point is that there is underlying physics that is sound.  The predicted Greenhouse Gas emissions for the next 30 or 40 years will almost certainly result in catastrophic effects in terms of reducing crop yields, total crop failures in some cases, changes in weather patterns, a reduction in glacier mass in such mountain ranges as the Himalayas, the Alps and the Rockies. And a reduction in these glaciers' ice mass means considerably less water supply. 

muso wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 9:24pm:




Here we go again.

Fear mongering based on speculation.

These AGW disciples are worse than a cult.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:43pm:


All future warnings are based on speculation. 97% of climate scientists are telling us that these outcomes are very likely, but that's not good enough for Uncle Meat. Many of the passengers aboard the Titanic thought the warnings it was going to sink were unjustified. Perhaps when Uncle Meat finishes his Gin and Tonic we can get down to the business of acting on this threat.

MOTR wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:08am:

Uncle meat surely knows that your 97% figure is total BS, so not much point trying to use it to lift a failed position.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

UNCLE MEAT DOESN'T LISTEN TO ECONOMISTS WHEN THEY PREDICT DISASTER!

   

Still touching up the unborn Mr Meat??

 

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 6:31am:

PROGSLOL LOVES SECOND FIDDLE I SEE!!
 

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

I think motr will provide to the circle jerk exactly what he feels like!

 

How's the fondling going mate??

Getting any sleep afterwards???

   

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

UNCLE MEAT LIVES IN A WORLD WITH NO LIES 

   

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:

UNCLE MEAT LIVES IN A WORLD WITH NO LIES!!     

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

UNCLE MEAT LIVES IN A WORLD WITHOUT LIES!! 

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:22pm:



Yep.    

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:39pm:

It is a bit like a chinese man, yelling Chinese language at an Englishman who only speaks english.

Sorry, but have to go with the Englishman on this one as he has always stated that although he does not believe in the AGW hysteria, he does however concede to being cautious and take the path of insurance.

I would have thought your smack time would be better spent harassing me rather then uncle meat.

Uncle Meat wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:


The amount of insurance you take is directly proportional to the perceived level of risk. While the climate science is telling us the risk is very high you'll be advocating the minimum action slim risk package. It's highly unlikely you'll be out there championing the need for immediate action.

muso wrote on Jun 5^th, 2012 at 11:06pm:

yEH, NO WORRIES, THO CONSISTENCY IS NEXT TO GODLINESS DON'T CHA KNOW!!??!!

 

If your vote is cast independent of the risk of global warming, you are part of the problem. If you don't take individual action to reduce your carbon footprint, you are part of the problem. If you go around calling people who warn others of the high risks associated with business as usual, fearmongers, you are part of the problem. If you recline on your deckchair while others actively work towards solving the problem, you are most certainly not part of the solution.

That is my position.

MOTR wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:59am:

Uncle Meat believes only Liberal voters understand the concept and ramifications of stagnation on an issue in the face of big business with it's advantage of economies of scale allowing it to simply threaten economies by threatening to put off investment until it gets it's small advantages constantly implemented.

   

A research team working on a two-million-dollar government grant just made a shocking discovery: intense man-made heat waves are decimating bird populations throughout the globe, including the birds that were recently thriving in local neighborhoods. According to the researchers, anthropogenic warming-related activities are directly responsible. Steady temperature increases, especially when confined to small areas, target inactive birds that can no longer fly away to avoid the consequences. As technologically induced heat waves are being absorbed across the skin, the affected birds begin to turn brown.

"These incidents illustrate a need for an increase in government spending on further research in order to predict with accuracy the amount of more government spending on raising public awareness about an increase in government spending to study the effect of man-made warming events and activities on biodiversity and lifestyle," stated the report released last Tuesday by Moon Batts, a professor of biology and Paul Choom, a professor of natural studies.

The scientists indicated that the next step would be to calculate the exact avian mortality rates caused by man-made warming events and the role played in it by the condiment industrial complex as enables and facilitators of such activities.

Soren wrote on Jun 11^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

They could have given me $100 and I could have told them that inactive birds will die from starvation.

Would have saved us tax payers $1,999,900

MOTR wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:


Yes, and??

MOTR wrote on Jun 12^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:

lol. I can see how those inactive birds would have died of starvation. Nice to see someone has tried to put them back on their perch.