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Reply #60 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 5:35pm
 
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/24/247677/syria-arrests-40-germans-report/

Syria arrests over 40 Germans for smuggling arms: Report

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Syrian armed rebels sit in a pick-up truck in the city of Qusayr southwest of Homs in western Syria, June 22, 2012.

Syria has reportedly arrested more than 40 German nationals for attempting to smuggle arms into the country.


An alternative news weblog, the NSNBC, cited a German journalist as saying that the German nationals are the employees of a "security firm."

The weblog report further said that the Germans were detained while attempting to smuggle arms and ammunition from a cargo vessel in the international waters off the coast of Syria.

The source added that the Germans are reportedly jailed along with over 300 other foreigners, among them Portuguese paratroopers.

No German authority has commented on the matter, yet.

Since the start of the turmoil in Syria, the smuggling of arms into the country has been on the rise.

Syria has been experiencing unrest since mid-March 2011. The violence has claimed the lives of many people, including security forces.

Damascus blames ‘outlaws, saboteurs, and armed terrorist groups’ for the unrest, asserting that it is being orchestrated from abroad.

The West and the Syrian opposition, however, accuse the government of killing protesters.

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Reply #61 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 6:09pm
 
The West and the Syrian opposition, however, accuse the government of killing protesters.
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That's so the forces of evil can invade, but Syria is not as easy as other middle eastern countries have been. There has been some creditable media reports coming out of Syria that is making the west look very dishonest. Especially the angel of evil (Hilary) with her stupid accusations that get promptly dismissed.
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Reply #62 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 6:35pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 8:33am:
Except the Americans, they just let highjacked aircraft hit tall buildings, now that's the dumbest response.


Did you have an actual point here? Oh, right, you never have a point.


bobbythefap1 wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 9:32am:
Most nations aren't at constant threat of being invaded either. Obviously they would have up scaled alert recently. I think its pretty smart of them not to be taking risks.


I can name several nations that have been or still are under constant threat of invasion or attack that do not engage unknown aircraft without visual inspection and visual range communications attempts.  Stupid poo like what the Syrians did is how you end up with civilian airliners getting shot down simply because they had a navigation error or because one of your air defense guys misreads an IFF transponder code (Both incidents happened, once by the USSR and once by the US). 

Worse, Syria has now done something, that should Turkey's government want, makes a perfect Casus foederis for Turkey to invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty. Yeah, Syria done goofed.

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Reply #63 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 7:28pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 23rd, 2012 at 5:50pm:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/23/247522/syrian-military-downed-turkish-je...

‘Syrian military downed Turkish jet’

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20120623/hbeig20120623015634123.jpg
A Turkish F-4 Phantom (file photo)

The Syrian military has announced that it shot down a Turkish fighter jet that was flying over its “territorial waters.”


According to a military statement issued on Friday, the F-4 Phantom was downed in Syrian territorial waters west of the village of Om al-Tuyour in Lattakia province, 10 kilometers from the beach, Syria's official news agency SANA reported.

Turkey had earlier said that its military lost radar and radio contact with the jet over the Mediterranean after it took off from Erhac Airport in the eastern province of Malatya, which borders Syria.

The Turkish military provided no details about the mission of its downed jet, but Turkish media outlets said it was on a reconnaissance flight.

Turkish media outlets are saying that the two members of the jet’s crew have been rescued, but other news agencies say the men are still missing.

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Very simple the west wanted to test Russian defense missile system in Syria using a Turkish jet from sixties and they got it what they wanted.
So now everyone is happy.
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Reply #64 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 9:05pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 8:33am:
Chard wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 5:41am:
So a jet loses radio contact and/or is having navigation issues, both of which are pretty common occurrences in both civilian and military aviation. Most nations, when an unknown air contact shows up over their waters or airspace they send up an aircraft to close with and visually identify the contact simply because it could very well be an aircraft that's lost its radio and cannot contact ATC.  Honestly, the Syrian response is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen in a long while.



Except the Americans, they just let highjacked aircraft hit tall buildings, now that's the dumbest response


Mmmmm....it was shot upon leaving the syrian air space....it was shot in international air space....mmm...last i heard is that it fell some 10km away from a vilage in syria. And syrian air space extend about 12-24km from the shore to waters. Yup, it was defelinly shot ''inside'' syrian air space. Please , dont manipulate the data, we not stupid!..... trying to cook up justifications...ofcos, he wont say ''yes, it was spying in syria,yes, uncle sam sent me''. Testing a domesticaly produced radar system? No, u were testing the recently installed Russian radars in syria. Now you got results of your tests. Bye mr FM.
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Reply #65 - Jun 24th, 2012 at 9:53pm
 
Syria is a beacon of light and have an impeccable human rights record. Syria should invade all Western countries and lead us to the light. They truly are a superior nation and people.
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Reply #66 - Jun 25th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
athos wrote on Jun 24th, 2012 at 7:28pm:
Very simple the west wanted to test Russian defense missile system in Syria using a Turkish jet from sixties and they got it what they wanted.
So now everyone is happy.



I agree they now have what they want (so they think) and now comes the parasites.

hurriyetdailynews.com

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Monday,June 25 2012, Your time is 4:54:33 PM
International actors weigh response to Syria’s assault

NATO said yesterday it would discuss Turkey’s accusation of Syria shooting down one of its warplanes in international airspace, as international actors as well as Turkey weigh measures against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

Britain, another member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, offered its support for “robust” international action. “The [al-]Assad regime should not make the mistake of believing that it can act with impunity. It will be held to account for its behavior. The U.K. stands ready to pursue robust action at the United Nations Security Council,” British Foreign Secretary William Hague said. NATO said it would meet tomorrow to discuss the issue following a request by Turkey. “Under Article 4, any ally can request consultations whenever, in the opinion of any of them, their territorial integrity, political independence or security is threatened,” a NATO spokeswoman said.

Beside NATO, EU foreign ministers will discuss the heightening crisis in Syria when the council meets in Luxembourg today. “The subject of Syria was already on the agenda for the meeting, so they’ll have a chance to talk about this before the NATO meeting on Tuesday,” Reuters quoted a Spanish government source as saying. U.N. leader Ban Ki-moon raised his “deep concern” about the impact of Syria’s shooting. Ban said he had “deep concern about the downed Turkish military jet and particularly about the potential serious implications of this incident for the region” in telephone talks with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky said. Syria’s close ally Iran urged Turkey and Syria late June 23 to show restraint. Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi said he hoped the two sides would “settle the issue peacefully to maintain regional stability.” German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said he was “greatly worried” by the incident, urged a thorough investigation and welcomed Turkey’s cool-headed reaction.

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Reply #67 - Jun 25th, 2012 at 5:16pm
 
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Al-Hamwi: Syria is committed to combating terrorism and protecting civilians

GENEVA_ Syria's Representative to the UN Human Rights Council, Faisal al-Hamwi, said that Syria is committed to combating terrorism by all available means.

In a speech on behalf of the Syrian delegation at the 20th session of the Human Rights Council on Saturday, al-Hamwi said ''My country is committed to protecting innocent civilians as embodied by the sacrifices of medical staffs, the army and the law-enforcement members.''

''Over the past months, my country has suffered due to crimes committed by armed terrorist groups, especially those linked to al-Qaeda, expressing, in the most egregious of ways, their aversion to life,'' al-Hamwi said.

''These terrorist groups have exhausted all means, including bombings, sniping, mutilating and slaughtering hundreds of innocent Syrians, including doctors, engineers, students, and innocent children...This is the kind of culture that some regional and international countries are fostering and supporting with weapons and funds.''

He added that the Syrian government has done its duty in confronting terrorists and set up committees to investigate these acts to bring their perpetrators to justice.

''The government is determined to compensate the victims of terrorism for the material and psychological damage, knowing that nothing can ever compensate for the loss of human lives, except by taking all necessary procedures to crack down on terrorists to prevent them from committing more heinous crimes.''


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Reply #68 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 7:09am
 
That whole shooting down of the turkish jet @ this time seems a bit suss to me. I think theres stuff we arent being told about this. We are being told that it was for no reason so we will get angry and not question an invasion.

I mean heck - doesnt this look familiar to anyone?

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/eu-imposes-fresh-sanctions-on-syria/story-e...

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Reply #69 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 8:20am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 7:09am:
That whole shooting down of the turkish jet @ this time seems a bit suss to me. I think theres stuff we arent being told about this. We are being told that it was for no reason so we will get angry and not question an invasion.

I mean heck - doesnt this look familiar to anyone?

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/eu-imposes-fresh-sanctions-on-syria/story-e...

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It's the same game plan over and over and over. The ruler is killing his people. A fake attack the goodies, sanctions, civil unrest, the great saviour comes in to do the rest.

They kill or oust the sitting rulers, put their puppet government in place so they get oil contracts and rebuild contracts.

Oh! I forgot the killing of the civilians, lots of that, but they blame the corrupt former government for that.

See Egypt.
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Reply #70 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 9:24am
 
Let's send another plane over Syria to see if they shoot us down again, says Turkey.

Syria have been helping with the search and rescue mission.
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Another Turkish plane fired at by Syria - reports

The Turkish government has claimed another one of its planes was shot at by Syrian forces during the initial search and rescue operation for the first plane, downed on Friday. The downed military jet fell into Syrian territorial waters. The incident caused international scandal, but a government spokesman in Ankara said his country “has no intention of going to war with anyone.”

http://www.rt.com/news/line/2012-06-25/#id33253


It's a shame Obama doesn't feel that way.
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Reply #71 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 1:39pm
 
english.pravdasp@m/opinion/columnists/24-06-2012/121466-turkish_violation-0/


   
Turkish Fighter Aircraft: Making some sense
24.06.2012



Predictably, Turkey has reacted to the destruction of one of its aircraft with stupidity and cowardice and predictably, the western leaders have jumped at the chance to up the stakes in an internal conflict in Syria which they are aiding and abetting by providing terrorists with weaponry. Through Turkey.

If anyone has acted responsibly since the start of this conflict, it is the Syrian authorities and conversely, if anyone has acted irresponsibly since the beginning, it is those who are openly Syria's enemies, namely NATO in general, which includes Turkey and as usual in particular, the FUKUS-Axis (France, UK and US).

How the Syrian Government has behaved

The Syrian opposition to the Government exists. It represents around 30 to at most 35% of the population, and is split into around 30 groups. Some of these groups are armed, carrying out terrorist insurrection attacks against the police and army that try to defend the population against this scourge, which perpetrates the same sort of outrages against human rights as we saw in NATO's terrorists in Libya (rape, sodomy, arson, murder, torture, looting).

The Syrian authorities have lost thousands of police and armed forces personnel in these terrorist attacks against a population which is 65 to 70% behind its President. When a Government is attacked by thousands of armed terrorists committing atrocities, it does not stand by with its arms folded. It acts. And this is what the Syrian Government has been doing.

Not only have the Syrian armed forces been sterilising infested areas of these elements, liquidating this terrorist scourge and protecting the citizens but also, it has launched a national reconciliation and forgiveness process in Tartous. This, despite continued attacks by the terrorist gangs funded and armed by the west, through Turkey allegedly by courtesy of the CIA, among others.

Just yesterday the authorities exterminated a number of this terrorist filth in Deir Ezzor and Homs, while in Hama a terrorist explosives factory was seized. Yesterday was also the scene of the funerals of sixty-eight police, army personnel and innocent civilians massacred by NATO's terrorists. Are we going to hear about this in western media? Of course not. So we see how credible their reporting is.

How the west has behaved

From the very beginning, the west has sought to destabilise Syria as a first step towards denying Russia its last Mediterranean base in the run-up to a full-scale war against Iran, and thereafter incursion into the Central Asian energy fields. Afghanistan was one part of the puzzle, Libya was strategically the easiest piece to place while at the same time any aspirations Africa had to controlling its resources were removed with Colonel Gaddafi.

Turkey has been aiding the terrorists, providing safe haven for what it calls Suriye Ulusal Geçiş Konseyi, or in English, the Syrian National Council, a motley collection of individuals from the fringes of Syrian society who once placed in Government, will ask How High? when told to jump. There are also widespread reports of Turkish incursions into Syrian territory and Turkey acting as a staging post for arming these groups of terrorists.

As usual, and as we saw in Libya, the west has been lying from the outset, ordering massacres from its terrorist friends in puerile attempts to discredit the Syrian Government. Does anyone remember the supposed massacre by shelling when all the victims were pro-Government Allouites with their hands tied behind their backs? No? Links (1)

What does Turkey expect?

So given this background, what does Turkey expect? After denying the aircraft was in Syrian airspace we have had, as usual from NATO, all kinds of conflicting stories (why are they such ineffective liars?) First Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu states that the rescue operation was being conducted with Syria because the aircraft was in Syrian territorial waters, as the Syrians have claimed all along, now the Turkish side states the aircraft was in international waters. The Turkish president, Abdullah Gul, has stated that the aircraft may have strayed into Syrian territory unintentionally due to the high speeds these aircraft reach.

Now they claim the aircraft was unarmed and was merely on a training mission to test the Turkish radar systems.

Are the Turkish President and Foreign Minister stupid, or what? What do they expect?  You allow your territory to be used to arm terrorists to destabilise a sovereign nation, send a Phantom F-4 military assault aircraft flying fast and low into that country's territorial waters (not to test Turkish radar but yes, to test the Syrian anti-aircraft system) and then when it is shot down, run crying to NATO because you got your nose smacked in?

Under international law, a country has the right to defend itself against aerial targets which violate its airspace. Period. The target was engaged 0.5 nautical miles from Syria's coast and was destroyed, crashing 5 nautical miles to sea. That is still seven nautical miles within Syrian territory.

It is to be hoped that any military adventures by Ankara will be met with the proper response from the Syrian side but then again, as we saw with the Turkish boats in the Gaza siege... a coward is a coward. Turkey started it, Syria responded and now Turkey goes running to NATO.

What was that Israel says when it slaughters civilians? Ah yes, I remember: They shouldn't have been there, should they? The question Turkey should be putting to NATO on Tuesday is, Should we be arming terrorists? Should we be using Turkish territory to send weapons to terrorists to slaughter civilians and should Turkish military aircraft be violating Syrian airspace even if, as the Turkish President said, they fly so fast. Rolleyes...

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Reply #72 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 4:37pm
 
From the very beginning, the west has sought to destabilise Syria as a first step towards denying Russia its last Mediterranean base in the run-up to a full-scale war against Iran, and thereafter incursion into the Central Asian energy fields. Afghanistan was one part of the puzzle, Libya was strategically the easiest piece to place while at the same time any aspirations Africa had to controlling its resources were removed with Colonel Gaddafi.
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That's the plan. Sudan is in there too. They effected the split so they'd get their greasy hands on the oil.

The Bush Doctrine explains the ideas behind the invasions. America effectively wants world dominance at any cost.

http://www.thebushdoctrine.com/
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Russia says Iran should be part of Syria summit

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hX3jzWp4MCMyfB11p3iIsSXbKulw?...

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DEAD SEA, Jordan — Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Iran should be invited to an international meeting on the Syria conflict in Geneva at the weekend, drawing

But the United States swiftly rejected the Russian proposal.

"It is better to involve Iran in the settlement (of the Syrian crisis)," Putin told a news conference following talks with Jordan's King Abdullah II on the shores of the Dead Sea.

"In any case it would complicate the process (if Iran is ignored)."

Wrapping up a one-day visit to Jordan, on a Middle East tour that had already taken him to Israel and the West Bank, Putin said Iran's support is needed.

"The more Syria's neighbours are involved in the settlement process the better. Ignoring these possibilities, these interests would be counterproductive, as diplomats say," he added.

"It is better to secure its support," said Putin.

The United States said, meanwhile, that it was increasingly likely to join the international meeting on the Syria crisis but rejected Russian calls for Iran to take part.

"We are getting closer but we don't have any decisions yet," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters in Washington.

But concerning Iran she added: "Given its support for the regime and its continued behavior vis-a-vis Syria, we just don't see it as able to make a helpful contribution right now."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov earlier told reporters in Jordan that Iran should be invited to Saturday's meeting in Geneva.

"It should certainly be done," he said, adding that he would take part in the summit.

If Iran is not invited "then all those who can really influence all the main Syrian sides will not be present," he said.

UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, who wants to gather the major powers in Geneva in a final bid to get agreement on a political transition plan for Syria, has yet to officially announce the meeting.

But Lavrov said he would still go, even if Iran is not invited.

"I will go. But in that case we will simply be talking about how to further gather together all the participants who are necessary in order to use this chance because there is no guarantee it will be crowned with success," he added.

"But this chance has to be used. For this to happen you need to gather all those who have real influence on the situation. Iran is no doubt one of them."

"One needs to agree to influence all Syrian sides so that they themselves sit down at the negotiating table and begin to get along and look for consensus solutions," he said.

"Only they themselves can find agreement, and outside players can help them get together."

It is not still clear if Britain, France and China -- the other three permanent members of the UN Security Council along with Russia and the United States -- will attend the Geneva meeting.

In Jordan, Putin opened a guesthouse for Christian pilgrims at Baptism site in the Jordan Valley, where many Christians believe Jesus was baptised.

He arrived in Jordan from the West Bank, where he met Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas during a brief visit to Bethlehem, a day after talks in Israel with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres.

"I did not set myself a task to negotiate a personal meeting between the two leaders, but I am under the impression that agreement is possible," between Israel and the Palestinian leaders, Putin said in Jordan.

The peacemaking Quartet, which groups Russia, the United States, the European Union and the United Nations, has been trying to nudge the two sides back to direct talks, on hold since late 2010.

But little progress has been made, as the Palestinians insist on a settlement freeze before talks resume, while Israel calls for new discussions without preconditions.

During his visit to Israel, his first since returning to the Kremlin for a historic third term in May, Putin was urged to act on Iran's controversial nuclear programme.

"The Iranian problem is not a simple one but still I proceed from the fact that it can and should be solved through absolutely peaceful means, by way of a negotiation process and on the basis of respect of the right of the Iranian people to the peaceful use of energy," Putin told reporters.

"With absolute guarantees provided to the world community that the realisation of this programme would not lead to the emergence of nuclear weapons in this country and will not facilitate the nuclear proliferation in the world."

The international community has been pursuing talks with Tehran, but three high-level meetings -- the most recent in Moscow -- have failed to produce any breakthrough.

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It would be much easier to invade iran then by just invading syria and calling iran part of syria huh.

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Tuesday, the NATO Council convened, called by Turkey under Article Four of the Washington Treaty that states that NATO members will convene if one member states that it´s security is threatened. Article Four is used for deliberating whether Article Five will be invoked to call on all NATO members to defend the threatened country.

After the consultations, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen held a brief Press Conference in which he condemned Syria for it´s supposed act of aggression against Turkey, stating that NATO did not expect that Syria would repeat such an act of aggression. Rasmussen then reiterated that it must be clear, that an attack on one NATO member is perceived as an attack on all NATO members, implicitly threatening that further violence or further deliberations might result in a response by NATO against Syria.

Since NATO is very picky about to whom it issues annual all year press passes, the questions from the present media could not be surprising either and were well crafted for maintaining the narrative that Syria in deed was the aggressor, asking if a stronger response by NATO against Syria was not warranted.

That said, it is important to reiterate some facts which,  so to speak, shoot down NATO´s disinformation. Hopefully this will be as effective as the Syrian Air Defenses.

    It has been well established since latest August 2011   that NATO had Special Forces on the ground in Syria, waging a covert, undeclared and illegal war on Syria. (1)
    The War on Syria is waged by a coalition of NATO, Israel, GCC member states, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, and indirectly Hamas. It has been actively prepared and implemented since at least 2010. (2) (3)
    On Friday the NATO member Turkey committed a an additional blatant violation of international law when it violated Syrian Airspace and Syrian Territorial Waters.
    The Turkish Phantom F4 was not shot down by a missile, but by a ground-based anti-aircraft machine gun with a maximum range of 2.5 kilometers.
    Syrian authorities have delivered the wreckage to Turkish Authorities together with a report.
    Bullet holes at the tail end of the airplanes show that the F4 was hit at the tail end and subsequently lost it´s ability to remain airborne. It also shows that Syria did not use a missile but ground based anti aircraft machine gun fire, after visual contact was established.
    When fire was opened on the F4 it flew at an altitude of 100 meters and with a speed of 800km/h.
    Syria has offered Turkey to form a joint military technical committee and visit the site of the event to help clarify eventual Turkish doubts. (4)
    While the world media focus on the riveting question if NATO will invoke Article Five against Syria, a coordinated assault on key government buildings in Damascus was initiated by NATO led insurgents. (5)

According to RT, Syrian government forces and what RT calls “armed opposition” are fighting in Damascus suburbs. Clashes are reported from the suburbs Qudsaya and Hammah. According to RT´s Maria Finoshina in Damascus, the clashes are the worst the Syrian Capital has seen for months.

One of the greatest problems for the Syrian military forces is that the insurgents are carrying out the attacks from residential areas, which complicates a military response. The Syrian military forces are taking the greatest possible care to protect non combatant civilians, to limit damage to private property, and to adhere to international law. Meanwhile the insurgents deliberately abuse non combatant civilians for carrying out their attacks.In many cases the insurgents have prevented civilians from fleeing the scenes of battles, effectively using civilians as hostages and human shields.

How NATO Secretary Anders Fogh Rasmussen generates the confidence to continue NATO´s audacious disinformation campaign would be a mystery if it was not clear that a free and independent media in Western Europe and the USA that could challenge the house of lies that is built to justify a war is about as dead as human rights and civil liberties  since NATO in 2001 embarked on a war of terror on the world and on the people which it claims to protect.

Christof Lehmann nsnbc editor



Source: nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/nato-secretary-general-carefully-chosen-words-of-
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Audio of conference etc..:- nsnbc.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/nato-council-meeting-over-turkey%C2%B4s-downed-je
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