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Reply #15 - May 31st, 2012 at 4:47pm
 
Ppl have already tried that,. They got bored and wandered off when they didnt get a reaction or if it was spam they got moved to the spam bord.

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Reply #16 - May 31st, 2012 at 5:32pm
 
I found that in this forum, insult someone the moderators like and you are banned, insult someone they don't like, and it's OK ....
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Reply #17 - May 31st, 2012 at 5:40pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2012 at 5:32pm:
I found that in this forum, insult someone the moderators like and you are banned, insult someone they don't like, and it's OK ....


Heh. Yeah and the mods seem to like the worst culprits.

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Reply #18 - May 31st, 2012 at 5:44pm
 
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Reply #19 - May 31st, 2012 at 6:18pm
 
Freedom of speech does not have to imply freedom from just consequences. Acknowledging this is not the same as rejecting freedom of speech in principle, as people like Falah imply. I think he once tried to tell me that stoning someone to death for apostasy is just a 'different take' on freedom.

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On the other hand there are places where you can have your own opinion without being "gagged" online and even in the real world (domain in sydney for 1 place).


Is there anything you can say there that you can't say anywhere else? It appears to me that this is merely a place 'designated' for soap boxing. Being put in a place makes you less free, not more.

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There is no reason certain opinions should be banned from any forum online or even in real life.


Why should a forum be treated any different to any other private space? You can kick someone out of your home for any reason you want. Why not your website?

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Try coming up with an argument instead of trying to analyse and insult me somehow - its not working.


Don't be so precious Borg. He was just giving an example. It doesn't have to be all about you.

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Thats about 3 times now you have just skipped over the bits where I say that there is still free speech on the internet.


You can still get done for slander on the internet. It's just a bit harder to enforce (but not much).
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Reply #20 - May 31st, 2012 at 6:24pm
 
You didnt address what I said about the bannings for being "antisemitic". Apparently saying some opinions here will get you banned for antisemitism? This is what is being said. Andrei and I think soren said it. Is it true? If I say the yanks deserved 11/9 and jews are terrorists will I be banned?

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Reply #21 - May 31st, 2012 at 6:37pm
 
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Don't be so precious Borg. He was just giving an example. It doesn't have to be all about you.


comon. It was my thread. It was my topic. It was my points he was addressing. I can respond to it.

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Why should a forum be treated any different to any other private space? You can kick someone out of your home for any reason you want. Why not your website?


You are absolutely right. If its your forum you can ban whoever you want. However if you arent applying your rules consistently you need to fess up. You also need to be clear about what opinions are not allowed. You opened up the forum to the public - you obviously want it to keep going. You need conflicting opinions to make it work.

I have obeyed your no swearing rules. I read them on the rules page when I joined. However there was also a rule about abusing other members and I copped heaps of abuse (you saw it you know) yet I saw 1 member banned because he got angry when they did it to him and no action was taken against the perpetrators. I would have gotten banned too if I wasnt laughing so much @ soren thinking i was a woman. In fact i am pretty sure that if i did what they do I would be banned anyway.

Is this true? Is this how it is?

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You can still get done for slander on the internet. It's just a bit harder to enforce (but not much).


Yeah well that is true too I guess but @ this point we are still safe to discuss politics without getting done for sedition.

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Freedom of speech does not have to imply freedom from just consequences. Acknowledging this is not the same as rejecting freedom of speech in principle, as people like Falah imply. I think he once tried to tell me that stoning someone to death for apostasy is just a 'different take' on freedom.


To tell the truth falah isnt a good example. You use him as an example a lot i see but actually I usually skip his posts (and yaddas) unless I am in a discussion with them because of all the copy/pastes and the holybook verses. My mind just skips over them unless I actually asked for 1.

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Reply #22 - May 31st, 2012 at 6:43pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 31st, 2012 at 5:32pm:
I found that in this forum, insult someone the moderators like and you are banned, insult someone they don't like, and it's OK ....




thats about right...mind you I am against insults.. personal stuff.. well it isnt debating is it??

the mods on here have funny ideas... when longy was a mod they all ganged up on him..he dared disobey some rule..

yet we see all sorts of things going on all the time that they claim is wrong.. as you say if its one from their own side its okay..

I am almost sure if blackadder posted as many threads in  a day as deadhorsemeat does.. he would be banned..

I would try it to see what happens..

but I am sick and tired of seeing the front page of Politicians suck stuffed up day after day.


and I dont believe two wrongs make a right.


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Reply #23 - May 31st, 2012 at 8:48pm
 
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It was my thread. It was my topic.


No Borg. It is mine. You are just borrowing it.

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I can respond to it.


I didn't say not to respond. I just said it was not all about you. If you did intend to make the thread about you, you should have said so in the opening post, rather than making people think it was about a free speech.

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Yeah well that is true too I guess but @ this point we are still safe to discuss politics without getting done for sedition.


Are you suggesting the internet is responsible for this, or is this another topic changer?

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To tell the truth falah isnt a good example. You use him as an example a lot i see


There are not many people who oppose freedom on principle to use as examples. I could use puppet, but no-one has any idea what he is on about. I use him as an example with you because you defend a lot of the evil stuff he posts in the name of religion, as if it is OK to promote stoning people to death so long as you are a minority.
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Reply #24 - Jun 1st, 2012 at 6:10am
 
I see you addressed the questions.

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