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Reply #90 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

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Reply #91 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:47am

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

You are right of course but it makes you wonder about how silly in your words numpty Abbnott is by suggesting that he would not allow his vote to be accepted.

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Reply #92 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:11am

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

Rabbotts vote WAS counted numpty. He was too slow, unlike Thomsons gazelle. Maybe you need to stop frothing bile and go get that cuppa?

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Re: Abbott, Pyne run like naughty boys
Reply #93 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:31am

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:47am:

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

You are right of course but it makes you wonder about how silly in your words numpty Abbnott is by suggesting that he would not allow his vote to be accepted.

It is an old Westminster tradition. They close the doors and if you are out, you are out. You can see MPs run on the corridors of Parliament when they ring the bells, signalling that the doors will be closed shortly. The patry whips exist, among other things, to ensure that MPs are in the chamber when they need to be there.
SO if you do not want to be counted, you get outa there before the doors are closed. It is simple and easy.

It may have looked silly but the principle was demonstrated memorably.

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Reply #94 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:34am

Gist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:11am:

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

Rabbotts vote WAS counted numpty. He was too slow, unlike Thomsons gazelle. Maybe you need to stop frothing bile and go get that cuppa?

But Thommo's was neutralised, so the Coalition didn't benefit from Thomo's vote, Git. That is the point. You understand the point. Yet you babble as if what you say made any difference to the point.

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Re: Abbott, Pyne run like naughty boys
Reply #96 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 12:59pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

Indulging in abuse and sarcasm simply demonstrates your mental inability to put together a cogent argument.

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Reply #97 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:17pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:34am:

Gist wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 10:11am:

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 9:33am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 8:48am:

People like cods and longweekend, who unquestioningly adore Abbott, need reminding how this whole ridiculous business started.

Abbott began it by taunting the government about "accepting" Thomson's "tainted vote". In fact his vote is one of the few things about Thomson that isn't tainted. As long as he remains an MP, he is entitled to vote and have his vote counted.

His vote WAS counted, numpty.
Abbott's and Pyne's weren't. You are frothing because you can't think. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anythng for a while. See how you go. WHen you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

Rabbotts vote WAS counted numpty. He was too slow, unlike Thomsons gazelle. Maybe you need to stop frothing bile and go get that cuppa?

But Thommo's was neutralised, so the Coalition didn't benefit from Thomo's vote, Git. That is the point. You understand the point. Yet you babble as if what you say made any difference to the point.

Hmm.. nnooo... his vote wasn't quite neutralised. Despite all your froth and phlegm you fail to fully understand that Thomson had two choices - vote with the government or vote with the opposition.

Had he voted with the government and all the other independents voted with the opposition as they did the the vote would have been 72/78 for/against.

Had he voted with the opposition and Pyne not absented himself then the vote would have been 71/79 for/against.

But Pyne leapt with the speed of a thousand gazelles so the vote was actually 71/78 for/against.

In other words, it reduced the opposition vote by one. It didn't negate Thomson's voting with the opposition. To do that would have meant someone from the opposition voting with the government so that the count would be 72/78 which a proper negation required.

But they never truly had the courage of their convictions. Thomson even challenged Rabbott to do it at the time.. Rabbott, hypocrite that he is, declined.

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Reply #98 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:28pm

To neutralise his vote ADDED to your own all you need to do is remove one of your own which you would have had otherwise, so adding his to yours didn't increase your vote in the ned - no benefit to your numbers.

That's the point Git.

Asking you to actively vote against yourself is the kind of BS we have come to expect from Thommo - and you.

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Reply #99 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:37pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:28pm:

To neutralise his vote ADDED to your own all you need to do is remove one of your own which you would have had otherwise, so adding his to yours didn't increase your vote in the ned - no benefit to your numbers.

That's the point Git.

Asking you to actively vote against yourself is the kind of BS we have come to expect from Thommo - and you.

(*sigh*) Wrong. Roll Eyes

Try reading my previous post a few times Soren. Have a cup of tea and think without saying anything for a while. See how you go. When you hear a penny drop, you can talk again. How about that?

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Reply #100 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:47pm

Pyne would have voted with the Coalition. SO they would have had whatever vote they normally do. Adding Thommo's would have meant ONE MORE for the coalition.

They didn't want ONE MORE if it means having obe from Thomo. They can't stop him voting whatever way, guido, but they can determine whether his vote increases their own or not.

I though yoiu were just a middling git but can now see that you are up a fully fledged one, in competition with PP and SOB. In that contest, you get one point.

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Reply #101 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:56pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:47pm:

Pyne would have voted with the Coalition. SO they would have had whatever vote they normally do. Adding Thommo's would have meant ONE MORE for the coalition.

They didn't want ONE MORE if it means having obe from Thomo. They can't stop him voting whatever way, guido, but they can determine whether his vote increases their own or not.

I though yoiu were just a middling git but can now see that you are up a fully fledged one, in competition with PP and SOB. In that contest, you get one point.

You are supposed to wait until you hear the sound of the penny dropping. From that post, I can see that hasn't happened yet. I suggest you read my post quietly a few more times before making a fool of yourself again.

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Reply #102 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:57pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 1:47pm:

Pyne would have voted with the Coalition. SO they would have had whatever vote they normally do. Adding Thommo's would have meant ONE MORE for the coalition.

They didn't want ONE MORE if it means having obe from Thomo. They can't stop him voting whatever way, guido, but they can determine whether his vote increases their own or not.

I though yoiu were just a middling git but can now see that you are up a fully fledged one, in competition with PP and SOB. In that contest, you get one point.

It would have meant one more to the coalition and one LESS to Labor - that's two which is why the were both trying to leave.

Even the Libs understand this one and there's little evidence they can even count ...

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Reply #103 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 2:16pm

Git:
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Had he voted with the government and all the other independents voted with the opposition as they did the the vote would have been 72/78 for/against.

Had he voted with the opposition and Pyne not absented himself then the vote would have been 71/79 for/against.

But Pyne leapt with the speed of a thousand gazelles so the vote was actually 71/78 for/against.

In other words, it reduced the opposition vote by one. It didn't negate Thomson's voting with the opposition.

In other words Pyne's absence DID negate any benefir to the opposition - they had the same vote as if Thommo had voted with Labor. So for the Coalition's numbers, Thommos' vote made no difference.

Sound it out if necessary: Thommo's vote did not benefit the Coalition whose numbers were exactly what they would have been without Thommo.

Read your OWN post slowly, paying particular attention to the number 78. It occurs twice, see if you can spot both. Good luck.

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Reply #104 - Jun 1^st, 2012 at 3:01pm

Soren wrote on Jun 1^st, 2012 at 2:16pm:

Git:
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Had he voted with the government and all the other independents voted with the opposition as they did the the vote would have been

72/78

for/against.

Had he voted with the opposition and Pyne not absented himself then the vote would have been 71/79 for/against.

But Pyne leapt with the speed of a thousand gazelles so the vote was actually

71/78

for/against.

In other words, it reduced the opposition vote by one. It didn't negate Thomson's voting with the opposition.

In other words Pyne's absence DID negate any benefir to the opposition - they had the same vote as if Thommo had voted with Labor. So for the Coalition's numbers, Thommos' vote made no difference.

Sound it out if necessary: Thommo's vote did not benefit the Coalition whose numbers were exactly what they would have been without Thommo.

Read your OWN post slowly, paying particular attention to the number 78. It occurs twice, see if you can spot both. Good luck.

Good, you're getting there. Yes 78 is there twice. Now look again and you will see that the number 72 only appears once. I've even enlarged it for you to help your decrepit old brain find it.

The results are not the same. Get it? Rabbott and the Gazelle did. You'd best wait for that penny.

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