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May 30th, 2012 at 11:10am
 
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/13814840/huge-ancient-civilisations-c...

Like their contemporaries in Egypt and Mesopotamia, the Harappans, who were named after one of their largest cities, lived next to rivers.

"Until now, speculations abounded about the links between this mysterious ancient culture and its life-giving mighty rivers," Giosan said.

Now Giosan and his colleagues have reconstructed the landscape of the plain and rivers where this long-forgotten civilizationdeveloped. Their findings now shed light on the enigmatic fate of this culture.

"Our research provides one of the clearest examples of climate change leading to the collapse of an entire civilization," Giosan said.

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All climate on Earth is driven by the sun, and so the monsoons were affected by the lower insolation, decreasing in force.

This meant less rain got into continental regions affected by monsoons over time."

Eventually, these monsoon-based rivers held too little water and dried, making them unfavorable for civilization.
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Reply #1 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:11am
 
Does this post have a point ?
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Reply #2 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am
 
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?

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Reply #3 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:27am
 
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?



*sigh*

Again??  Roll Eyes

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OK, assume it isn't carbon emissions. Assume you are dead right and it is the sun.

What do we do about it?

1. Nothing and get wiped out just like your ancient civilisation

2. Whatever we are capable of.

I vote for number 2. So what can we do?

(a) Well... we could erect a huge sunbrella out in space (seriously)

(b) Cut down carbon emissions which is known to cut down the greenhouse effect

Now (a) is damned hard whereas (b) is do-able. Coincidentally, we need to do (b) anyway because oil won't last forever (unless you want to subscribe to the longweekend school of idiocy).

SO I vote for (b). What about you?
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Reply #4 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:40am
 
(c) Cut down carbon emissions, if that's what really makes you happy, and stop the fear-mongering.

So, I vote for (c).
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Reply #5 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?



I thought you deniers dont believe in historical records ?

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Reply #6 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:40am:
(c) Cut down carbon emissions, if that's what really makes you happy, and stop the fear-mongering.

So, I vote for (c).


So in other words, you've got nothing to say really other than you just want people to say you were right. I did that in my previous post.

Glad to see you opt for action on carbon emissions.
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Reply #7 - May 30th, 2012 at 11:57am
 
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?





they wont have it macca climate change only started with INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!..


I saw a doco on the ABC shhh about the Ancient Egyptians what happened to them why did they disappear off the face of the earth for 200 years..

scientists uncovered the reason I wont bother telling anyone on here as they wont believe it.. even though it was science and scientifically proven..

they only believe the science they like
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Reply #8 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:01pm
 
cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:57am:
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?





they wont have it macca climate change only started with INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!..


I saw a doco on the ABC shhh about the Ancient Egyptians what happened to them why did they disappear off the face of the earth for 200 years..

scientists uncovered the reason I wont bother telling anyone on here as they wont believe it.. even though it was science and scientifically proven..

they only believe the science they like


Great! Fan-TAS-tic! They discovered the real reason. You were right all along. Congratulations!!

So what's your choice - option 1 or option 2? If your choice is option 2 then do you want to do (a) or (b)?
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Reply #9 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:02pm
 
Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 12:01pm:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:57am:
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?





they wont have it macca climate change only started with INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!..


I saw a doco on the ABC shhh about the Ancient Egyptians what happened to them why did they disappear off the face of the earth for 200 years..

scientists uncovered the reason I wont bother telling anyone on here as they wont believe it.. even though it was science and scientifically proven..

they only believe the science they like


Great! Fan-TAS-tic! They discovered the real reason. You were right all along. Congratulations!!

So what's your choice - option 1 or option 2? If your choice is option 2 then do you want to do (a) or (b)?





anyone any idea what that rant is about??????
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Reply #10 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:07pm
 
cods wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 12:01pm:
Great! Fan-TAS-tic! They discovered the real reason. You were right all along. Congratulations!!

So what's your choice - option 1 or option 2? If your choice is option 2 then do you want to do (a) or (b)?





anyone any idea what that rant is about??????


Let me help you cods because I know you find it difficult to scroll up a few posts. Here is what the rant is about:

Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:27am:
OK, assume it isn't carbon emissions. Assume you are dead right and it is the sun.

What do we do about it?

1. Nothing and get wiped out just like your ancient civilisation

2. Whatever we are capable of.

I vote for number 2. So what can we do?

(a) Well... we could erect a huge sunbrella out in space (seriously)

(b) Cut down carbon emissions which is known to cut down the greenhouse effect

Now (a) is damned hard whereas (b) is do-able. Coincidentally, we need to do (b) anyway because oil won't last forever (unless you want to subscribe to the longweekend school of idiocy).

SO I vote for (b). What about you?

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Reply #11 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:11pm
 
Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:55am:
So in other words, you've got nothing to say really other than you just want people to say you were right.


"Right" about what?

What I'm saying is stop the fear mongering.

Stop accusing sceptics of "endangering the lives of our grandchildren".


Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:55am:
Glad to see you opt for action on carbon emissions.


I've never been opposed to reducing carbon emissions.  If you want to take that action as an insurance policy, go for your life.

What I am opposed to is AGW disciples declaring that anyone who is sceptical of the AGW "science" is endangering human existence. 

Chillax guys.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 12:11pm:
Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:55am:
So in other words, you've got nothing to say really other than you just want people to say you were right.


"Right" about what?

What I'm saying is stop the fear mongering.

Stop accusing sceptics of "endangering the lives of our grandchildren".


Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:55am:
Glad to see you opt for action on carbon emissions.


I've never been opposed to reducing carbon emissions.  If you want to take that action as an insurance policy, go for your life.

What I am opposed to is AGW disciples declaring that anyone who is sceptical of the AGW "science" is endangering human existence. 

Chillax guys.   Roll Eyes


Sooo... basically you agree the AGW proponents are 100% right but you just don't like the way they say what they say. Kind of a shallow argument to bang on with isn't it?
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Reply #13 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
Gist wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 12:14pm:
Sooo... basically you agree the AGW proponents are 100% right but you just don't like the way they say what they say. Kind of a shallow argument to bang on with isn't it?



Absolutely not.  I'm sceptical of the AGW "science".  Always have been.

There is no "100% right".  That's not how science works.

However, I have an open-mind and therefore I realise that there is still a possibility (albeit a small one) that the AGW hypothesis may have some credibility.

Therefore, seeing as I acknowledge that there is a slim chance that humans may be contributing to climate change, I have no problem with insurance schemes such as reductions in carbon emissions.

It is possible you know, to be sceptical of the AGW hypothesis yet not be in opposition of carbon reduction schemes.  Some of us are open-minded.  AGW disciples, not so much.   Undecided

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Reply #14 - May 30th, 2012 at 12:44pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Maqqa wrote on May 30th, 2012 at 11:13am:
If you want to read the whole story - go ahead.

The whole point of this "research" is that climate change wiped out a civilisation 3,000 years ago. What was the world's population then? I bet it wasn't 6 billion people

Mind you this civilisation was a fraction of the current civilisation and it only represent 10% of everyone on earth at the time.

Now get this - the current climate change people are arguing that it's the carbon emissions of the current crop of people that's causing climate change.

Are you kidding me?



I thought you deniers dont believe in historical records ?


It is the empirical data (its all history) that blows the AGW nutters theory out of the water.
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