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Reply #30 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:03am
 

Ahah - found it !!!!


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The Battle of Broken Hill otherwise known as the Broken Hill Massacre, was a fatal incident which took place near Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia on 1 January 1915. Two Muslim men shot dead four people and wounded seven more, before being killed by police and military officers. While the attack was politically and religiously inspired, as declared by the perpetrators in notes, the men were not members of any sanctioned armed force. The two men were later identified as being Muslims from the British colony of India, modern day Pakistan.[1][2]

The attackers were both former camel-drivers working at Broken Hill. They were Badsha Mahommed Gool (born approx 1874[3]), an ice-cream vendor, and Mullah Abdullah (born approx 1854[4]), a local imam and halal butcher.

Gool's ice-cream cart was well known in town and was used to transport the men to the attack site.[1][5] They also fashioned a home-made Ottoman flag which they flew. There appears to have been little effort made at hiding their identities.

Abdullah had arrived in Broken Hill around 1898 and worked as a camel driver, before becoming a mullah and slaughtering animals according to halal Islamic rites. Several days before the killings Adbullah was convicted by Chief Sanitary Inspector Brosnan for slaughtering sheep on premises not licensed for slaughtering. It was not his first charge.[6] Considering the slaughter-house regulators believed that the halal method of slaughter was inhumane, there was little scope for Abdullah to legally prepare such meat for the Muslim community. In addition, he had ceased wearing his turban years before, "since the day some larrikin threw stones at me, and I did not like it".[5]

Gool lived next door to Mullah Adbullah. Gool was a member of the Afridi, a Pashtun clan, from Afghanistan. He claimed he had been in the Turkish Army several times and was believed to regularly smoke strong marijuana.[7] Police Constable Mills later conjectured that Gool had used Abdullah's concerns over the fine as leverage to convince him to take part in the killings.

[edit] Picnic train targetedEach New Year's Day the local lodge of the Manchester Unity Order of Oddfellows held a picnic at Silverton. The train from Broken Hill to Silverton was crowded with 1200 picnickers on 40 open ore trucks. Three kilometres out of town, Gool and Abdullah positioned themselves on an embankment located about 30 metres from the tracks. As the train passed they opened fire with two rifles, discharging 20 to 30 shots.

The picnickers initially thought that the shots were being discharged in honour of the train's passing, but once their companions started falling, the reality sank in.

Alma Cowie, aged 17 died instantly. William John Shaw, a foreman in the Sanitary Department, was killed on the train and his daughter Lucy Shaw was injured. Six other people on the train were injured: Mary Kavanagh, George Stokes, Thomas Campbell, Alma Crocker, Rose Crabb and Constable Robert Mills.[8]

The railway guard on the train was "Tiger" Dick (Eric Edward) Nyholm, soon to be a father of six children, including the late Prof Sir Ronald Nyholm,[9] also of Broken Hill. Nyholm was a renowned marksman and proved instrumental in protecting the train's passengers from further injury.

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Part of the rocky outcrop where the final battle took place.Gool and Mulla made their way from the train towards the West Camel camp where they lived. On the way they killed Alfred E. Millard who had taken shelter in his hut. By this time the train had pulled over at a siding and the police were telephoned. The police contacted Lieutenant Resch at the local army base who despatched his men. When police encountered Gool and Abdullah near the Cable Hotel, the pair shot and wounded Constable Mills. Gool and Abdullah then took shelter within a white quartz outcrop, which provided good cover. A 90-minute gun battle followed, during which armed members of the public arrived to join the police and military. By the end of the battle very little shooting came from the pair and most of it was off target, leading Constable Ward to conclude that Mullah Abdullah was already dead and Gool was wounded.

James Craig, a 69-year-old occupant of a house behind the Cable Hotel, resisted his daughter's warning about chopping wood during a gun battle and was hit by a stray bullet and killed. He was the fourth to die.

At "one o'clock a rush took place to the Turks' stronghold".[8] An eyewitness later stated that Gool had stood with a white rag tied to his rifle but was cut down by gunfire. He was found with 16 wounds. The mob would not allow Abdullah's body to be taken away in the ambulance. Later that day both bodies were disposed of in secret by the police.

AftermathThe attackers left notes connecting their actions to the hostilities between the Ottoman and British Empires, which had been officially declared in October 1914. Believing he would be killed, Gool Mahomed left a letter in his waist-belt which stated that he was a subject of the Ottoman Sultan and that, "I must kill you and give my life for my faith, Allāhu Akbar."Mullah Abdullah said in his last letter that he was dying for his faith and in obedience to the order of the Sultan, "but owing to my grudge against Chief Sanitary Inspector Brosnan it was my intention to kill him first."[10]

Apart from the fact that the police were forced to stop a mob from marching on an Afghan camp the following night, there was no violence against the Muslim community afterwards. Instead, the actions were seen as representative of 'enemy aliens' and the Germans in the area were the focus of violence. Believing the Germans had agitated the assailants to attack, the local German Club was burnt to ground, the angry mob cutting the hoses of the firemen who came to fight the flames.[11][10]

The next day the mines of Broken Hill fired all employees deemed 'enemy aliens' under the 1914 Commonwealth War Precautions Act. Six Austrians, four Germans and one Turk were ordered out of town by the public. Shortly after all 'enemy aliens' in Australia were interned for the duration of the war.[11]

The Silverton Tramway Company refunded in full the fares for the picnic train and the money was used to launch a public relief fund.



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Reply #31 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:06am
 
What is your point? We all know that people of any religion and culture are capable of those things, and have been. I could post just as many examples of Christians doing it but that would get us nowhere. Clearly the religion has nothing to do with people doing this things, it could be religion as a whole considering how similar Christianity is to them but then it could just be human nature.
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Reply #32 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:07am
 
Origins and arrival of cameleers


Known in Australia as ‘Afghans’, the cameleers came mainly from the arid hills and plains of Baluchistan, Afghanistan and the north-west of British India (today’s Pakistan). The cameleers belonged to four main ethnic groups: Pashtun, Baluchi, Punjabi, and Sindhi.

Despite cultural and linguistic differences, the cameleers shared ancient skills. In their homelands many led semi-nomadic lives, carrying goods by camel string along centuries-old trade routes through arid and harsh regions of Central Asia.

The cameleers also shared the Islamic religion, which had spread eastwards through Afghanistan and northern India between the 7th and 10th centuries. The Muslim faith blended with local custom, such as the Pashtun code of honour, the Pashtunwali. Islam was a strong bond between cameleers in Australia, despite their different ethnic and linguistic backgrounds. A small number of cameleers were of the Sikh religion, but the great majority were Muslim. Many found time for prayer as they travelled through the outback. In their communities Small iron or earth-walled mosques provided a focus for daily prayer, religious festivals, and sociability.

The cameleers spoke a mix of languages in Australia , reflecting their diverse origins. It is likely that Pashto, Dari (Persian), Baluchi, Punjabi, Sindhi and Urdu were heard in the streets of Kalgoorlie, Bourke and Marree. Some cameleers were literate, while others relied upon oral tradition, reciting poems or folk-tales at evening campfires and celebrations. Although the language of the Qur’ãn was not widely spoken in Central Asia, the cameleers uttered their prayers in Arabic.

By the late 1850s it seemed clear that camels would provide the best and most efficient means of exploring inland Australia and transporting goods across it. Horse and bullock teams could not cope with the sandy deserts, extreme heat and lack of water.

Several attempts were made to introduce camels. In 1860 organisers of the Burke and Wills Expedition brought 24 camels and their handlers from Peshawar and Karachi. Five years later, South Australian pastoralists Thomas Elder and Samuel Stuckey imported 124 camels and 31 cameleers on a three-year contract to cart wool and supplies. More contracts followed. During the early 1870s these pioneering cameleers played a vital role in exploration and helped construct the Overland Telegraph Line.

European cameleers were not unknown, but the Muslim cameleers were recognised as the best and most efficient. For them the camel was more than a beast of burden; it figures in the Qur’ãn as a ‘blessed animal’. Most cameleers knew each of their camels by name.

At least 2000 cameleers and 20,000 camels arrived in Australia during the period from 1870 to 1920. The 1893 gold discoveries at Kalgoorlie and Coolgardie greatly increased demand. A vast network of camel routes spread across the inland.

Most cameleers arrived in Australia as young men, in their 20s or 30s. Many left wives and families at home, returning to them at the end of their contracts. Others stayed on in Australia, and some formed unions with European or Aboriginal women. Today their descendants retain strong links with this distinctive heritage.

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Reply #33 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:25am
 
Muslims were representated in Aboriginal Pop Culture:

Australia’s earliest contact rock art discovered


http://news.anu.edu.au/?p=2531

Accessed 16 August 2010

Friday 23 July 2010

A team of researchers from The Australian National University and Griffith University have discovered evidence of Southeast Asian sailing vessels visiting Australia in the mid-1600s – the oldest contact rock art in Australia.

The discovery was made by the team taking part in the Picturing Change fieldwork project in the Wellington Range, Arnhem Land. The rock shelter the researchers are studying at Djulirri has nearly 1200 individual paintings and beeswax figures. It was documented by Professor Paul Taçon (Griffith University), Mr. Ronald Lamilami (Senior Traditional Owner) and Dr Sally K. May (ANU).

“This site includes at least 20 layers of art,” said Dr May. “And importantly, it has also yielded the oldest date yet recorded for contact rock art in Australia. A yellow painted prau (Southeast Asian sailing vessel) is found underneath a large beeswax snake. This snake was radiocarbon dated by Dr Stewart Fallon at ANU to between AD1624 – 1674, meaning that this is a minimum age for the sailing vessel painting.”

While historians and archaeologists have speculated that visits to the northern parts of Australia from Southeast Asian ships have been happening for hundreds of years before European settlements, this is the first rock art evidence found that dates the visits back to the 17th century.

The ARC-funded ‘Picturing Change: 21st century perspectives on recent Australian rock art’ project highlights the importance of contact rock art as some of the only contemporary Indigenous accounts of cross-cultural encounters that took place across Australia through the last 500 years.

Between 2008 and 2010 the researchers worked with local traditional owner Mr Ronald Lamilami to document rock art sites in the Wellington Range, one of the areas of focus of for Picturing Change.
“This part of Arnhem Land is well known for its Southeast Asian heritage and extensive pioneering archaeological research undertaken by Campbell Macknight, although rock art was not a focus of his early archaeological research,” said Dr May.
“Djulirri has more diverse contact period rock art than any other site in Australia” said Professor Taçon.  “Besides the oldest dated paintings of Southeast Asian ships, there are European tall ships and many other forms of watercraft, all of which can be placed in chronological sequence”.

The research will be published in a forthcoming issue of the journal Australian Archaeology.
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Reply #34 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:27am
 
First Fleet Was Late - Aboriginal Rock Art Shows Southasian Ships Sailing for Australia in 1600s


Australian researchers says they have discovered the oldest 'contact rock art' in Australia, evidence of Southeast Asian ships sailing for – and reaching – Australia's shores as early as the mid-1600s. This undermines popular assumption that the continent was largely isolated and unvisited until the British First Fleet arrived 'Down Under' in 1788.

Between 2008 and 2010 Dr Sally K. May from the Australian National University (ANU) and Professor Paul Taçon from Griffith University worked with local traditional owner Mr Ronald Lamilami to document rock art sites in the Wellington Range area. At a rock shelter at Djulirri they identified nearly 1200 individual paintings and beeswax figures in multiple layers applied over the millennia.

“This site includes at least 20 layers of art,” said Dr May. “And importantly, it has also yielded the oldest date yet recorded for contact rock art in Australia. A yellow painted prau (Southeast Asian sailing vessel) is found underneath a large beeswax snake."

Besides the oldest dated paintings of Southeast Asian ships, there are European tall ships and many other forms of watercraft, all of which can be placed in chronological sequence.

Historians and archaeologists have speculated that visits to the northern parts of Australia from Southeast Asian ships have been happening for hundreds of years before European settlements.
Traders from Makassar (in what is now Indonesia) visited the coast of northern Australia dry and smoke the trepang – or sea cucumber – they caught, before taking their catch back to the Makassar and other Southeasian markets, where it was highly valued. At the hight of the ancient trepang trade, large fleets of Macassan ships would sail to Arnhem Land and stay for the entire monsoen season. The trade lasted up to the end of the 19th century.

Dr Stewart Fallon at ANU now radiocarbon dated the beeswax snake above the dug out canoe to between 1624 and 1674AD, meaning that this is a minimum age for the sailing vessel painting. The rock art evidence dates the visits back as early as the 17th century.

In two years time, Professor Taçon's team recorded at least 81 images of ships in the Wellington Range.  Among them dugout canoes, 19th century British tall ships, a luxury cruise ship and a Second World War Destroyer.  Some of the Aboriginal art in the area depicts more modern-day inventions such as a car, a biplane (painted over a kangaroo). Even the portraits of a missionary and a captian were identifiefd by the team. SMH has a great slideshow of the images.

“Djulirri has more diverse contact period rock art than any other site in Australia,” said Professor Taçon.  “Besides the oldest dated paintings of Southeast Asian ships, there are European tall ships and many other forms of watercraft, all of which can be placed in chronological sequence”.

The research is part of the ‘Picturing Change: 21st century perspectives on recent Australian rock art’ project, which aims to highlight the importance of contact rock art as some of the only contemporary Indigenous accounts of cross-cultural encounters that took place across Australia through the last 500 years. It will be published in a forthcoming issue of the journal Australian Archaeology.

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The Makassan prau is in the top right-hand corner

http://heritage-key.com/blogs/ann/first-fleet-was-late-aboriginal-rock-art-shows...
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Reply #35 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:29am
 
We have contact: rock art records early visitors


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A team of archaeologists has uncovered ancient rock paintings showing that South-East Asian ships were visiting Australia well before European settlement.

The paintings, found in Arnhem Land by a team of archaeologists from the Australian National University and Griffith University, are the oldest known contact rock art in Australia, dating back to the mid-1600s.

Working with a local traditional owner in the Wellington Range, the research team found a rock shelter containing almost 1200 individual paintings and beeswax figures.

ANU archaeologist Sally May said the process had been unfolding over the past two years.

The discovery was part of the government-funded Picturing Change project, which highlights the importance of contact rock art as some of the only contemporary indigenous accounts of cross-cultural encounters in the past 500 years.

''When we refer to contact, what we're talking about is contact between Aboriginal groups in Australia and overseas counterparts, whoever that may be,'' Dr May said.

''In this case, we've taken it back to the mid-1600s, and some of the earliest evidence of contact. Chances are contacts been going on for a lot longer than that, but this is the first tangible evidence that we've got of this contact with South-East Asia.''

She said it was possible to pinpoint the vessel in the painting as coming from South-East Asia because of the design of the boat.

''It's a classic South-East Asian fishing vessel, most commonly associated with Macassans who were coming to north Australia, usually collecting sea slugs from the water and trading it back across.''

Dr May said that although there had always been speculation about contact in Australia with South-East Asian fishing boats long before European settlement, the team didn't expect the art to date back as far as the 17th century.



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Reply #36 - May 28th, 2012 at 10:48am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 6:27pm:
Soren wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 11:49pm:
Annie Anthrax wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
Bang.

Dickhead.


That too. And this in response to words. Imagine if I posted cartoons. Just soooo Muslim and Lebby Muslim at that. Nothing to call on except an imaginary authority and going apesh!t at any sign of challenge.

You have never left Islam. It suits your temperament. It allows you to live without self-reflection.


Bang bang. Isn't that the name of the Prez of the largest Muslim country?




Oh would you just bugger off?





You asked for positive or negative, dozy bint.

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 25th, 2012 at 7:16pm:
Negative or positive. Can anyone think of some?


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Reply #37 - May 28th, 2012 at 11:05am
 
Parts of my own thesis about the influence of the Muslims from Macassar on Aboriginal culture of Northern Australia:

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Macassan Cultural Influence on Aborigines


Prior to being banned from Australia in 1908, thousands of Macassans visited Australia annually on monsoon winds in order to trade and gather pearls and trepang. Over the centuries they affected the culture of Aborigines that they traded with. They showed Aborigines along Australia’s northern coast a wider world, and demonstrated to them that there were foreign people of different colour who could be dealt with, and such relationships could be managed to the benefit of Aborigines. The sophistication, confidence, and knowledge attained though this relationship was observed and commented upon by European explorers and settlers. The contact between Macassan traders and Aborigines took place over a long time and was geographically widespread, although more concentrated in areas like East Arnhem Land and Napier Broome Bay. The influence of the contact on Aboriginal culture and technology was profound. The Macassan traders affected Aboriginal culture, religion, language, economy, and technology, as well as affecting Aboriginal expectations of foreign visitors...

...[Historian] Derek Mulvaney is critical of ‘Europocentric’ historians who ignore the effect of Asians on Australian history, singling out Andrew Sharp’s statement in The Discovery of Australia, that Asian ‘knowledge made no impact on the world at large or on the history of Australia.’5  Mulvaney considered the influence of Macassans on Aboriginal culture to be strong, arguing that:

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"Anthropologists have demonstrated convincingly that during the Macassan era, there were complex influences on aboriginal society which made a fundamental contribution to…ceremonial, material culture and language of Arnhem Land." 6


[Anthropologist] Mulvaney also described the effect of the relationship between the Macassans and Aborigines in these terms:


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“It is now recognised that its impact upon coastal Aboriginal society was profound. In addition to such material contributions such as the dug-out canoe and sail and metal implements, which probably enabled a more successful exploitation of the environment, the influence was all pervading.” 7



Peter Worsley, who conducted field research in Groote Eylandt in1952-3 for the Australian National University, considered the Macassan relationship influential on the religious and social organisation of Aborigines on Groote Eylandt, as well as affecting the way they evaluated their past 8:


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…the trepang expeditions can hardly have failed to make a considerable impact on the life of the Australian aborigines, on their economy and their social organization, as well as on their ideas and beliefs…

…The world-view of the aborigines was greatly widened, not merely by direct contact with the Malay sailors, but also by first-hand experience of Indonesia itself, since many aborigines took employment in the vessels of the visitors, and thus visited the Celebes…and other parts of Indonesia for quite lengthy periods. 9



Anthropologist Donald Thomson, who conducted research in Arnhem Land in the 1930’s, considered that the Macassans set a benchmark for conduct of foreign visitors in Arnhem Land:


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These visiting voyagers from Indonesia exercised a profound influence on the natives of Arnhem Land, which can be seen to this day. They established a good working relationship with the people and they left behind a tradition of respect amounting to hero worship which still remains. There is no doubt that failure to appreciate the history of Arnhem Land has been responsible for the extreme hostility which the white man and the Japanese met subsequently in this area. Visiting seafarers were expected to conform to the pattern of conduct which had been established, which included a respect for the integrity of the women, and to recognize also the territorial and other rights of the natives, as the Macassar trepang fishermen had done. Too much stress was laid by the white man on the primitive and savage disposition of the people, whereas we know now that as a result of their long contact with overseas visitors of a more advanced culture, they were more sophisticated than any other Australian aborigines, a fact which was noted by Matthew Flinders nearly a century and a half ago. 10


Historian Alan Powell argues that the impact of large numbers of Macassan traders visiting Australia may be the reason why the Northern Territory’s coastal Aborigines were better able to cope with European attempts of colonisation:

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The regular visits of a thousand men, or more, from another culture could not help but affect the lives of coastal Arnhem Landers…The second great influence of the Macassans lies in the conditioning of their hosts to the impact of alien life forces. Almost alone amongst the Australian Aborigines, the coastal Arnhem Landers had long and continuous experience of coping with outsiders before the coming of the British. That experience may help to explain why some were able to withstand so well the tremendous pressures which were put upon them in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. 11


Anthropologist Ian Crawford has written that Islamic beliefs such as the existence of Allah, the unity of mankind, and the existence of a universal law for mankind ‘provided Yolngu with a means of both comprehending and coping with developments’ that came with dealing with outsiders. Crawford argues that these beliefs have been used by Yolngu as “a conceptual weapon…in the struggle against domination against the ‘Other’.’12  Berndt and Berndt argue that contact with Macassans prepared Arnhem Landers, in some measure, for the cultural clash with Europeans.13

Crawford writes that ‘fleets of perahus sailing to the northern coasts of Australia in search of bêche-de mer opened to Aborigines a vision of a wider world.’ 14  The visitors from the East Indies opened up a wider world to Aborigines they visited, not just through their own presence, but by employing Aborigines to work on their perahus which took them around the northern Australian coast and sometimes even to the East Indies Islands to the north. Charley Djaladari, told Berndt and Berndt of what he had seen at Makassar:


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‘We saw so many things…the Balanda white men, with horses and carts and big houses and strange looking clothes …there were stone houses…there were so many people, and I couldn’t see them all’


In 1841, Port Essington settler, George Earl, remarked upon the Aborigines who were seen travelling with the Macassans in their praus:


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Nearly every prahu on leaving, the coast takes two or three natives to Macassar, and brings them back next season. 16




Berndt and Berndt noted that those Aborigines that had returned from such a journey ‘liked to talk of their journey through the islands to Macassar, and around the camp fires stories were told and songs were composed about what they had seen.’ 17


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They sing…of the Macassan wharfs; of the rice fields; money; the making of iron; the cutting of timber; the making of proas…of their houses, and so on; all the colorful life of an East Indies town is related in the poetic aboriginal songs… 18



Groote Eylandt elder Galiawa Nalanbayayaya Wurramarrba narrates how his father travelled to Makassar:

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My father often used to tell me stories of the Macassan days. He went away with them when he was a young boy. Wanabadi the Macassan took him and he was away for four [years]. 19







5 D J Mulvaney, The Prehistory of Australia, Thames and Hudson, London, 1969, pp. 19-20.

6 D Mulvaney, 'Beche-de-Mer, Aborigines and Australian History', Proceedings of the Royal Society of  Victoria, vol. 79, 196, p.454.

7 Mulvaney, The prehistory of Australia, p. 39.

8 P Worsley, Early Asian Contacts with Australia, Past and Present, vol. 7, 1955, pp. 6.

9 Ibid, pp3-5.

10 D Thomson, Arnhem Land: explorations among an unknown people, Geographical Journal, Vol. 112, 1948, pp.146-7.

11 A Powell, Far Country: a short history of the Northern Territory, Charles Darwin University Press, Darwin, 2009, pp.30-1.

12 I  McIntosh,  Can We Be Equal In Your Eyes?: a perspective on reconciliation from northeast Arnhem Land, PhD thesis, Northern Territory University, 1996, p214.

13  R Berndt, & C Berndt, Arnhem Land: its history and its people, F. W. Cheshire, Melbourne, 1954, p.70-1.

14 I Crawford, We Won the Victory: Aborigines and outsiders on the north-west coast of the Kimberley, Fremantle Arts Centre Press, Fremantle, 2001, p.97.

15 Berndt & Berndt, Arnhem Land…, p.56-8.

16 G, W, Earl, 'An account of a visit to Kisser, one of the Serawatti group in the Indian archipelago’, Journal of the Royal Geographical Society, vol. 11, 1841, p.116

17 Berndt & Berndt, Arnhem Land…, p.50.

18 R Berndt & C Berndt, ‘Secular figures of Northeastern Arnhem Land’, American Anthropologist, vol. 51, issue 2, 1949, p.216.

19G Wurramarrba, & J Stokes, (trans.) in K Cole, (ed.) Groote Eylandt Stories; changing patterns of life among the Aborigines on Groote Eylandt, Church Missionary Historical Publications, Melbourne, 1972, p. 32.
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Reply #38 - May 28th, 2012 at 11:26am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 9:51am:
hey, how come you did not post about the first terrorist we had here.
A muslim cleric camaleer who shot and killed aussies here.

he was the typical hothead who knew the koran perfectly well.



What about those hothead Irish, eh?
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Urry and Walsh argue that there must have been a substantial influence on Aborigines who visited the East Indies.20  This opinion is supported by Earl’s 1846 observation regarding Aborigines returning from Makassar:

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A considerable number have paid one or more visits to Macassar, residing there for months together, which has familiarized them with the language and manners of the people of that country… 21


Captain Collet Barker, commandant at Raffles Bay, recorded in his journal an interview with a Macassan perahu captain who informed Barker about East Arnhem Land Aborigines:

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Described a very good run of blacks (in the Gulf of Carpentaria as well as I could make out) who wore clothes spoke a little Malay…never stole from them and made themselves useful in various ways helping them to get wood water turtle etc….Several had been at Macassar probably 100 of them, some were there now. They were useful sailors…The parts they inhabited was from two to four days sail about as far as from Port Essington to Timor… 22


On 7 May 1829 six praus appeared. 'In the last prau,' Barker recorded, 'I understood there were four…blacks who were going to Macassar.'” 23 Certainly, in the last days of the Macassan trade there were many Aborigines visiting Macassar and even living there as Charley Djaladjari told Berndt and Berndt in the 1940’s:

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When we reached…the port of Macassans the big boss named Karei  Deintumbo…came down to the wharf…my boss Wonabadi…said to him “I’ve got some boys here” – referring to my companions and myself. “All right,” Deintumbo replied. “I’ll take all these men, and they can come to my place to sleep and have food.” He gave us money and we went with him. Near where I stayed several countrymen of mine [Aborigines] were living. 24


Berndt and Berndt describe Makassar as a ‘Mecca for of the northeast Arnhem Landers.’ 25  Aborigines who had travelled to foreign lands must have profoundly changed the world view of their families and tribes upon their return to Australia. James Urry and Michael Walsh discuss the fact that “Aborigines appear to have joined the praus voluntarily” and suggest that Aborigines may have been travelling with the Macassans due to having adopted the Islamic religion, and write that “the issue of religious conversion should not be overlooked.”26  Earl encountered some of these Aboriginal Muslims at Port Essington (1841):

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A few have been converted to Mohammedanism; one of these, Caraday, a chief of one of Goulbourn's Islands, visited us soon after our arrival at Port Essington. He had been circumcised, and refused to eat pork. 27


Another factor suggesting religious conversion amongst Aborigines was the intermarriage with Macassans, which would have been socially unacceptable on the Macassan side without converting the Aborigines to Islam. In the late 1940’s, Ronald and Catherine Berndt noticed that some of the people they encountered in Arnhem Land had physical features which suggested East Indies ancestry.28  Berndt and Berndt write that in the early periods of contact, relations between Aboriginal women and Macassan men were well-regulated.29  The traditional arrangement was that Aborigines should provide wives for their trading partners.30  Charley Djaladjari informed Berndt and Berndt that he had met several Aboriginal men and women who in Makassar who had married locals.31  Barbara Laklak Ganambarr, a Yolngu woman, tells how her grandfather told her that when the Macassans went back to their country:

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Some Aboriginal went with them. Some stayed there and married Makassan women and then came back. Some Makassans married Aboriginal women and took them back to Indonesia. 32


Archaelogical, documentary, and oral evidence demonstrates that the trepang trade was most intense in the region around Arnhem Land, while a less intense relationship occurred in the Kimberley region. Berndt argues that the East of Arnhem Land is the area of longest contact: “no other group of Aborigines in the Northern Territory, or perhaps in all Australia, has been subjected to such intensive contact with alien peoples, over such a long period of years…”33

In East Arnhem Land the attitude of Aborigines towards inter-gender relations was affected by the culture and attitude of the traders. In South Sulawesi, there are cultural boundaries between women and men who are not close relatives.34  This influence on Aboriginal culture was observed by Warner observed that in the East of Arnhem Land, Aborigines were protective of their wives and did not like to share their wives with others.35  Berndt and Berndt also noted that in areas where the cultural influence of the East Indies traders was greatest, such as in Groote Eylandt, women were segregated from men, and were jealously guarded from European and Japanese intruders. Women in these areas also had a notion of physical modesty, covering their private parts. In East Arnhem Land, and on Groote Eylandt, European explorers and missionaries noticed that Aboriginal women did not mix with strangers, and went to the bother of covering their private parts. A newspaper article regarding Arnhem Land in 1934 describes inter-gender relations on Groote Eylandt:

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…according to missionaries interviewed…The islanders keep their women hidden from strangers…there is said to be definite evidence of a Malay strain in the [coastal] aborigines, so that they have not lived in the simple isolation of the inland tribes. They have developed a business sense, and have been traders for generations. 36


In 1803 Flinders noted at Caledon Bay, in northeast Arnhem Land, that the only female that could see ‘wore a small piece of bark, in guise of a fig leaf.’37  Crawford that in the Kimberley an elderly man who died in the 1970’s had earlier informed his translator that he had seen an Aboriginal woman that on a trepanging boat wearing a grass or fabric skirt.38  This is likely to have been a result of the influence of Southeast Asian Islamic thought affecting Aboriginal culture. Intermarriage would have helped to spread cultural ideas about women. This attitude toward women is contrasted in the East coast of Australia where Aboriginal women could be seen by early explorers such as Captain James Cook who wrote:

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The natives of this country…go quite naked both men and women without any manner of Cloathing whatever, even the women do not so much as cover their privities. 39


Outside of Arnhem Land,40   and even in Western Arnhem Land, which saw less Macassan contact, Aborigines were less protective of their women.41  Warner wrote that wife-lending and prostitution was common in the West, however he did not discover such conduct in East Arnhem Land.42...

...In the 1940’s Berndt and Berndt noticed that venereal disease was rare in eastern Arnhem Land, whereas it was more prevalent in Western Arnhem Land, which had less influence from the Macassans.44   In Western Arnhem Land, the Goulbourn Island Mission authorities had stated that in the 1940’s, 80 per cent of the population had been infected with venereal disease.45  The Aborigines in Western Arnhem Land informed Berndt and Berndt that they did not suffer from venereal disease in the days of early Macassan contact.46  Venereal disease seems to have been introduced at the time of European contact.47  Dr Cecil Strangman, Protector of Aborigines for the Northern Territory in 1908 considered Europeans to be the source of gonorrhoeal infections.48  Considering the devastating effect sexually transmitted diseases had on Aborigines population levels in other parts of Australia through its often resulting infertility, it is likely that the practice of segregating women from strangers saved the East Arnhem Land from a significant drop in population that had occurred in Aboriginal communities elsewhere. Another aspect of introduced Macassan culture was observed by John Lort Stokes, an officer onboard the HMS Beagle, who found that Aboriginal inhabitants of Arnhem Land possessed clothing, which he had not seen elsewhere in Australia:

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Hanging on trees round these habitations, were specimens of an article of clothing, never before seen among the Aborigines of Australia…It is a kind of covering…made from coarse grass. 49


Stokes later added this explanatory footnote regarding the clothing:

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I have since heard from Mr. Earl, that the women in the S.E. part of Van Diemen's Gulf [Arnhem Land], occasionally wear a covering round their waist, somewhat similar to the [clothing that Stokes had found]. 50


Considering the warm climate in the area...[and]...that the region was visited by trepangers, and Muslim Aboriginal men had visited the nearby colony at Port Essington, it seems likely that the wearing of clothes was a result of the influence of the Muslim trepangers.


20Urry & Walsh, p. 94.
21G W Earl, Enterprise in tropical Australia, London, 1846, p. 118.
22C Barker, Joumal at Raffles Bay, 13 Sep 1828 - 29Aug 1829, NSW Archives, 912747 SR Reel 2654.
23Ibid. 
24Berndt & Berndt,  Arnhem Land…, p.56.
25Ibid, p.60.
26Urry & Walsh, p. 94.
27G W Earl, 'An account of a visit to Kisser, one of rhe Serawatti group in the Indian archipelago, Journal of the Royal Geographical Society, vol. 11, 1841, p.116.
28 Berndt, & Berndt, Arnhem Land…, p.6.
29Ibid, p.28-9.
30Ibid.
31Ibid, pp.56-7.
32B Ganambarr, ‘My Grandfather Used to Tell Me Stories About Makassans’, cited in Cooke, M, Makassar & north east Arnhem Land : missing links & living bridges, Batchelor College, Batchelor College report on a Makassan field study, June 1986, Darwin, 1987, p.15.
33Berndt & Berndt,  Arnhem Land…, p.14.
34C Pelras, The Bugis, Blackwell, UK, 1996, p.161-5.
35W L Warner, A Black Civilization: A study of an Australian tribe, Harper Torchwood, New York, 1964, p. 459.
36‘Darkest Arnhem Land’, Courier Mail, 4 January 1934,
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This is what Freeliar does when he has been rolled. Splits up all the thread?

You can't even admit when you are beat Freeliar! An arrogant loser you are!
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Again Falah, you fail to see what is right in front of you. Anyone looking at it objectively would see an attempt by me to draw attention to the debate.
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History of Australia’s Muslim cameleers



More than one million feral dromedary camels are wandering around the Australian outback, stripping vegetation and knocking down fences. They're viewed as pests, and there are plans to cull them.

[b]Burke and Wills expedition


Following a few small-scale exploration successes with camels in the late 1850s, the Victorian Expedition Committee in 1859 commissioned a local businessman who exported to India to buy camels and recruit cameleers. On 9 June 1860, 24 camels and three cameleers arrived at Port Melbourne, to join the pioneering Burke and Wills expedition


While the expedition successfully made it from the south coast to the north, through the heart of Australia,

“Until the arrival of motorised transport in the interior, in the early 1920s, there were only camels. It was the only way to get across great stretches of land.”



Faliar

There were no muslims on the Burke and Wills expedition, pathetic pissant muslims are trying to rewrite history with this one.

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The expedition set out from Royal Park Melbourne at about 4 pm on 20th August 1860.
The 19 men of the expedition included 5 englishmen,6 Irishmen,4 Indian sepoys,3 Germans and an American.
They took 23 horses,6 wagons and 26 camels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition#Departure_from_Melbourne






The Indian sepoy's were sikh's who have a long history of helping the British.

From a Islamic propaganda website-
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   A small number of cameleers were of the sikh religion.

Does anyone else notice how muslims downplay the contribution of the sikh cameleers like in the Burke and Wills expedition to claim the muslims were there.

http://www.cameleers.net/?page_id=2



There were no muslim cameleers on the Burke and Wills expedition they were Indian sepoy's from the sikh religion.

Why are muslims telling lies about the Burke and wills expedition Faliar?
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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 2nd, 2012 at 2:43pm:
falah wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 9:24am:
History of Australia’s Muslim cameleers



More than one million feral dromedary camels are wandering around the Australian outback, stripping vegetation and knocking down fences. They're viewed as pests, and there are plans to cull them.

[b]Burke and Wills expedition


Following a few small-scale exploration successes with camels in the late 1850s, the Victorian Expedition Committee in 1859 commissioned a local businessman who exported to India to buy camels and recruit cameleers. On 9 June 1860, 24 camels and three cameleers arrived at Port Melbourne, to join the pioneering Burke and Wills expedition


While the expedition successfully made it from the south coast to the north, through the heart of Australia,

“Until the arrival of motorised transport in the interior, in the early 1920s, there were only camels. It was the only way to get across great stretches of land.”



Faliar

There were no muslims on the Burke and Wills expedition, pathetic pissant muslims are trying to rewrite history with this one.

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The expedition set out from Royal Park Melbourne at about 4 pm on 20th August 1860.
The 19 men of the expedition included 5 englishmen,6 Irishmen,4 Indian sepoys,3 Germans and an American.
They took 23 horses,6 wagons and 26 camels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_and_Wills_expedition#Departure_from_Melbourne






The Indian sepoy's were sikh's who have a long history of helping the British.

From a Islamic propaganda website-
Quote:
   A small number of cameleers were of the sikh religion.

Does anyone else notice how muslims downplay the contribution of the sikh cameleers like in the Burke and Wills expedition to claim the muslims were there.

http://www.cameleers.net/?page_id=2



There were no muslim cameleers on the Burke and Wills expedition they were Indian sepoy's from the sikh religion.

Why are muslims telling lies about the Burke and wills expedition Faliar?




You ignoramus. "Sepoy" was a term used to describe anyone from the Indian sub-continent. Many of the "Afghans" were actually from Pakistan.


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The term "sepoy" or "sipāhi" is derived from the Persian word "sipāh" meaning "infantry soldier" in the Mughal Empire. In the Ottoman Empire the term Sipahi was used to refer to elite cavalry troopers.[2] In its most common application sepoy was the term used in the British Indian Army, and earlier in that of the British East India Company, for an infantry private (a cavalry trooper was a sowar).

The term sepoy came into use in the forces of the British East India Company in the eighteenth century, where it was one of many, such as peons, gentoos, mestees and topassess used for various categories of native soldiers. Initially it referred to Hindu or Muslim soldiers without regular uniform...It later generically referred to all native soldiers in the service of the European powers in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepoy


In those days, Pakistan was called India by the British.

This was painted at the time the expedition left Melbourne. The man walking next to the camels looks like an Afghan/Pakistani judging by the turban.


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Pakistani/Afghan-style turban:

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Sikh turbans are different:

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