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Re: Anti-Semitism
Reply #150 - May 26th, 2012 at 11:53pm
 
Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:46pm:
Evidence, thanks. We'd like to see some statistics and reliable quantitative data.



Good one. As every school boy knows, all momentous historical changes occur along lines established by 'social sciences': historical shifts are always looming large in statistics and quantitative data. The Berlin Wall fell due to statistical and quantitative data. So did Constantinople, the Aztec and Inca empires, the Eureka Stockade, the curtain on the Ottomans. All sociology. Of course.


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Reply #151 - May 27th, 2012 at 2:08am
 
Mnemonic wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 8:59pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:23am:
Jew boy is anti-Semitic insult

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
To add to that, calling someone "jew boy" is racially insulting.


I would have thought calling someone a "Jew boy," implied that they were "a Jew who is a boy," that the guy is a little young and makes some rash statements from time to time, which doesn't endear him to those on this forum.

My impression, however, based on his response to one of my posts, is that this guy isn't a kid. I do think, though, that the idiosyncrasies of Israeli society (class warfare?) has influenced much of his world view and leads to him making comments that would be "politically incorrect" in our society.

MOTR wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:37am:
We shouldn't be addressing our hostility towards the Jews when our concerns are about aggressive Zionism not Judaism.


Exactly. The problem isn't Judaism. It's Zionism. I've been reading things about Judaism in the last two or three years and Judaism as a religion has far better things to offer than Zionism. Zionism is a recent phenomenon. Judaism has been around far longer than that.

Some Jews are absolutely against Zionism, like followers of the Satmar Rebbe. The Satmar's are an Ashkenazi Haredi group. Haredis are very traditional and conservative Jews. One of the claims of Jewish anti-Zionists is that the Zionists are mainly secular and atheist Jews with very little association with their religion, and that Zionism had "nothing" to do with Judaism. Some anti-Zionists sites even go so far as to claim that "the Zionists funded the Holocaust."

There was a lot more opposition to Zionism in the Jewish collective in the early 20th century, much more than today. The 1st Jewish governor general of Australia was one of those people who opposed Zionism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Isaacs

....... and then there's Neturei Karta .......... Sad

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
What is "racial vilification"? And show me the law. And show me examples of where anyone broke said law.

If not then YOU are committing slander.


The one example I remember is Catch The Fire Ministries. A Christian preacher likened Muslims to devils and demons and was sued. Anyone remember that?

Grey wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Depends if you're talking about the Sephardim or the Ashkenazi. It's ironic that the Sephardic Jews who have always maintained their meditteranean links are treated as second class Jews by the Zionist/Ashkenazis

'Mano Suave' Trad. Beduin, singer Yasmine Levy.


There's another group: the Mizrahi.

http://www.meforum.org/707/post-zionism-and-the-sephardi-question


The terms Sephardic and Mizrahi are virtually interchangeable, though the reality is complex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrahi_Jews
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Reply #152 - May 27th, 2012 at 2:17am
 
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:53pm:
Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:46pm:
Evidence, thanks. We'd like to see some statistics and reliable quantitative data.



Good one. As every school boy knows, all momentous historical changes occur along lines established by 'social sciences': historical shifts are always looming large in statistics and quantitative data. The Berlin Wall fell due to statistical and quantitative data. So did Constantinople, the Aztec and Inca empires, the Eureka Stockade, the curtain on the Ottomans. All sociology. Of course.


In the land of Soren history is an unbroken continuum led by an American Jewish vanguard and the phrase, 'every dog has its day' is unintelligible.
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Reply #153 - May 27th, 2012 at 7:27am
 
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.








Lets hope iran gets a bomb hey?

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Reply #154 - May 27th, 2012 at 7:34am
 
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.


Don't choke on your cocoa old boy. This is Dubai.

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Reply #155 - May 27th, 2012 at 7:35am
 
Mnemonic wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 8:59pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:23am:
Jew boy is anti-Semitic insult

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
To add to that, calling someone "jew boy" is racially insulting.


I would have thought calling someone a "Jew boy," implied that they were "a Jew who is a boy," that the guy is a little young and makes some rash statements from time to time, which doesn't endear him to those on this forum.

My impression, however, based on his response to one of my posts, is that this guy isn't a kid. I do think, though, that the idiosyncrasies of Israeli society (class warfare?) has influenced much of his world view and leads to him making comments that would be "politically incorrect" in our society.

MOTR wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 11:37am:
We shouldn't be addressing our hostility towards the Jews when our concerns are about aggressive Zionism not Judaism.


Exactly. The problem isn't Judaism. It's Zionism. I've been reading things about Judaism in the last two or three years and Judaism as a religion has far better things to offer than Zionism. Zionism is a recent phenomenon. Judaism has been around far longer than that.

Some Jews are absolutely against Zionism, like followers of the Satmar Rebbe. The Satmar's are an Ashkenazi Haredi group. Haredis are very traditional and conservative Jews. One of the claims of Jewish anti-Zionists is that the Zionists are mainly secular and atheist Jews with very little association with their religion, and that Zionism had "nothing" to do with Judaism. Some anti-Zionists sites even go so far as to claim that "the Zionists funded the Holocaust."

There was a lot more opposition to Zionism in the Jewish collective in the early 20th century, much more than today. The 1st Jewish governor general of Australia was one of those people who opposed Zionism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Isaacs

....... and then there's Neturei Karta .......... Sad

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 12:40pm:
What is "racial vilification"? And show me the law. And show me examples of where anyone broke said law.

If not then YOU are committing slander.


The one example I remember is Catch The Fire Ministries. A Christian preacher likened Muslims to devils and demons and was sued. Anyone remember that?

Grey wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Depends if you're talking about the Sephardim or the Ashkenazi. It's ironic that the Sephardic Jews who have always maintained their meditteranean links are treated as second class Jews by the Zionist/Ashkenazis

'Mano Suave' Trad. Beduin, singer Yasmine Levy.


There's another group: the Mizrahi.

http://www.meforum.org/707/post-zionism-and-the-sephardi-question


Geez. If soren can call ppl "woman" as an insult and tolerator can call everyone idiots and several ppl have been called "beaners" who cares? Really I see nothing wrong with "jew boy" but I think the "offense" comes from the word jew not the word boy. It seems you are antisemitic if you even mention the word jew nowadays. No matter you are allowed to call muslims all sorts of things.

Judasim is a religion. Xtian is a problem. Islam is a problem. Judaism is a problem. They believe it OLD TESTAMENT of the xtian bible! Thats gotta be a problem. Have you read that thing?

Catch the fire ministries wasnt somebody on this forum. He was accusing someone on this forum of breaking the law.

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Reply #156 - May 27th, 2012 at 7:36am
 
Another nice Middle Age scene. This time from Abu Dhabi.

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Reply #157 - May 27th, 2012 at 9:32am
 
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.



HAHAHAHA
How could the Muslims not be successful when they control the financial system?
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Reply #158 - May 27th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 9:32am:
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.



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How could the Muslims not be successful when they control the financial system?


This is successful?



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Reply #159 - May 27th, 2012 at 9:59am
 
angeleyes wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 9:58am:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 9:32am:
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.



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How could the Muslims not be successful when they control the financial system?


This is successful?

They should have prayed to jebus
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Reply #160 - May 27th, 2012 at 11:42am
 
muso wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 7:36am:
Another nice Middle Age scene. This time from Abu Dhabi.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-54zZ50EGUWg/Tbl6oyjbPKI/AAAAAAAACFI/bVaOI4mG3sM/s1600/...



You are sucked in, like everyone else who is eager to be dazzled by propaganda.

"There are three different Dubais, all swirling around each other. There are the expats, like Karen; there are the Emiratis, headed by Sheikh Mohammed; and then there is the foreign underclass who built the city, and are trapped here. They are hidden in plain view. You see them everywhere, in dirt-caked blue uniforms, being shouted at by their superiors, like a chain gang – but you are trained not to look. It is like a mantra: the Sheikh built the city. The Sheikh built the city. Workers? What workers?

Every evening, the hundreds of thousands of young men who build Dubai are bussed from their sites to a vast concrete wasteland an hour out of town, where they are quarantined away. Until a few years ago they were shuttled back and forth on cattle trucks, but the expats complained this was unsightly, so now they are shunted on small metal buses that function like greenhouses in the desert heat. They sweat like sponges being slowly wrung out.

Sonapur is a rubble-strewn patchwork of miles and miles of identical concrete buildings. Some 300,000 men live piled up here, in a place whose name in Hindi means "City of Gold". In the first camp I stop at – riven with the smell of sewage and sweat – the men huddle around, eager to tell someone, anyone, what is happening to them.

Sahinal Monir, a slim 24-year-old from the deltas of Bangladesh. "To get you here, they tell you Dubai is heaven. Then you get here and realise it is hell," he says. Four years ago, an employment agent arrived in Sahinal's village in Southern Bangladesh. He told the men of the village that there was a place where they could earn 40,000 takka a month (£400) just for working nine-to-five on construction projects. It was a place where they would be given great accommodation, great food, and treated well. All they had to do was pay an up-front fee of 220,000 takka (£2,300) for the work visa – a fee they'd pay off in the first six months, easy. So Sahinal sold his family land, and took out a loan from the local lender, to head to this paradise."
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-d...

Yes, there is insane architecture but it is still a sh!thole with a glass and steel lid.


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Reply #161 - May 27th, 2012 at 11:56am
 
ive been to dubai, not that muso was even talking about 'dubai' in the first place he was referring to the UAE's more understated, less razzling and dazzling, but richer, capital

dubai is full of foreign workers who are the menial and mental slaves of the arabs who form a minority in the populationthere and just kick back crack open a few tinnies and enjoy the ride

fun place and really can you blame them

if i was an arab shiek id be sittin in my big luxury tent smokin hookah all day with some light skinned persian hunnies all up on my d1ck
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Reply #162 - May 27th, 2012 at 11:57am
 
angeleyes wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 9:58am:
bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 9:32am:
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.



HAHAHAHA
How could the Muslims not be successful when they control the financial system?


This is successful?



Sarcasm not detected?
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Reply #163 - May 27th, 2012 at 11:59am
 
dubai/abu dhabi arent shitholes at all for the arabs, the ruling indigenous people of these cities

but yeah i think they should just give their wealth to foreign workers and share it equally with them you should email them the suggestion comrade!!!
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Reply #164 - May 27th, 2012 at 12:00pm
 
muso wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 7:34am:
Soren wrote on May 26th, 2012 at 10:32pm:
Israel is a viable, thriving, successful country despite being under siege.

No Muslim country is viable if it is Islamic. That way lies ruin. You can't be Islamic a successful,  post-Middle Ages. Modernity and Islam are deadly enemies. That's the struggle we are living through. Islam is going to die because it cannot survive modernity.

Modernity has defeated communism and fascism. Islamism is next.


Don't choke on your cocoa old boy. This is Dubai.

http://bloggerssheaven.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/dubai-towers.jpg


Another country that does not like Israeli passport holders.
All over the Arab world they discriminate.
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