Bertram wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:


Why? Because the oppressive governments forbid mosque construction.


Let's look at the biggest Muslim population in a Christian city; Moscow. Russia only allows 4 mosques in the entire city of Moscow despite two million Muslims living in the city.


Compare that to the Muslim city with the biggest Christian population; Cairo. Cairo has dozens of churches.

Adamant wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:


These are lies.

Foreigners are permitted to conduct private prayer services, and also carry religious materials such as Bibles for personal use. There are no Saudi Christians, so no need for churches.



Adamant wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 8:21pm:


That is also lie. Church building and repairs was difficult under secular nationalist military dictatorship of US-backed Mubarak. Presidential permission was required to undertake such work.


The restrictions on building churches has been opposed by Muslim groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Muslim Brotherhood has said that they would relax restrictions on building churches if they gain power.

freediver wrote on Jun 16^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:


And how do we tell when a thread becomes a merciless assault on someone's religious practice?

I'm not sure who's better or worse: people who ask questions that seek to divide and supress, or people who give answers that do the same. But there is a "better" and "worse" implicit on both sides, and there lies the hypocracy.

You can't claim ownership of "enlightened" values and p!ss on people's form of prayer. It's not Socratic reasoning, it's tribal bigotry.

If the first rule of atheism was to respect supersticion, we wouldn't be heading for the next series of religious wars and pogroms.

Adamant wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 1:19am:


Christianity never took hold in central Arabia. 1400 years ago central Arabia was populated almost exclusively by pagans and remnants of the monotheistic religion of Abraham and Ismail. Nearly all of these became Muslim. The was the odd Christian, but never a Christian community. Christians were very rare in central Arabia. At least one Christian, Salman al-Farsi, converted to Islam and advised Prophet Muhammed on warfare tactics. He was a Persian who had been captured by pagan Arabs. Muslims purchased his freedom from pagan Arabs when he converted to Islam.

Hardly central Arabia.

If you had looked at the article it mentions a place called Jubail which is one of the far flung corners of modern Saudi Arabia.

Something like 1000 miles from Mecca. Hardly central Arabia.

Too put into context, Yemen, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Egypt, Sudan, South Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somalia and Israel are closer to Mecca than the church at Jubail in Saudi's far-flung northeast.

If you studied the article further, you might realise that the little church was built centuries before Muslims arrived there. This tiny community of Christians may have already ceased to exist by the time Muslims reached there.

having stewie for an older brother - and a step brother at that - i don't often get to have the last word - so thank you, mr falah.

SO the Vatican is now equivalent to the 'Muslim lands'?? 1000 catholic priests on half a square km balance 1.3 billion Muslims on millions of square kms.


You bvggers are stuck in stupidity and no matter how much your numbers grow, you will always be just a vast mass of morons, insh'allah.

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:



SO is that why it's impossible to get council approvals for churches in 'Muslim lands'?


Anyway, you bvggers can build mosques in 'Christin lands' because there is freedom of religion in the west. There is no freedom of any kind in 'Muslim lands' because freedom is anathema to Islam. But you monsters exploit freedom to advance your dogma of unfreedom. That's how devious you are.