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May 24th, 2012 at 8:14am
 
Challenge to indefinite refugee detention in Australia

A human rights lawyer has lodged papers in the High Court in a bid to challenge refugees' detention on the grounds of adverse ASIO security assessments.

http://australianetworknews.com/stories/201205/3509720.htm?desktop


also
Amnesty's latest report has condemned Australia for it's repackaging of failed policies.

Violation of indigenous rights

Over representation of indigenous in jail

Northern Territory Intervention.


Where is the outcry
When did some Australians get so mean spirited?

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Reply #1 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:20am
 
Be careful of the Green propaganda linking the failed Aboriginal intervention which the global corporate maggot set up with their Trojan Asylum seeker detention agenda...the  global corporate maggot is waging a cold war against, - all Australian people to undermine our morale, debase us and smash down our borders and rob our country.  Peter Reith and the Green both work as agents for the GCM propaganda machine.
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Reply #2 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:22am
 
why dont we ever hear about what they think is going on in the middle east for a change..

I know we get things wrong but at the end of the day we work bloody hard I think to right things..ok not to everyones satisfaction but for the most part.. yet here we are more condemnation for a country that people are flocking too.whys would they do that???... and yet not a word on the Middle. East Africa.Chile.even Greece with whats going on....

how about Haiti.. we havent heard about that place since forever.. it makes me sick it really does.
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Reply #3 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:26am
 
Amnesty


Who gives a flying fig what Amnesty says.

When they get real  and speak about human rights China, North Korea, Burma, Tibet, Zimbabwe etc then they may have some credence. Until then Amnesty best shut up.
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Reply #4 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:31am
 
No-one seems to know what they're doing - but those refugees who have a negative security assessment have to be locked up. Isn't it better that they're in detention here indefinitely rather than imprisoned in their own country - or worse?

We have to accept the fact that no government in power knows how to deal with the aborigines or the refugees. People have lost faith in Amnesty International and the UN - their theories sound fine, but putting them into practise is difficult especially when there is so much opposition.

We have too many criminals roaming our streets already and we haven't got the resources to cater to all their emotional deficiencies unfortunately.

Their victims or potential victims are entitled to some consideration too.
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Reply #5 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:37am
 
mantra wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 8:31am:
No-one seems to know what they're doing - but those refugees who have a negative security assessment have to be locked up. Isn't it better that they're in detention here indefinitely rather than imprisoned in their own country - or worse?

We have to accept the fact that no government in power knows how to deal with the aborigines or the refugees. People have lost faith in Amnesty International and the UN - their theories sound fine, but putting them into practise is difficult especially when there is so much opposition.

We have too many criminals roaming our streets already and we haven't got the resources to cater to all their emotional deficiencies unfortunately.

Their victims or potential victims are entitled to some consideration too.




Should ASIO be able to do security checks of all Australians and residents and any that fail ASIO's assessment be locked up for the rest of their lives without knowing their crime.

Should this be done to protect Australians?
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Reply #6 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:39am
 
angeleyes wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 8:26am:
Amnesty


Who gives a flying fig what Amnesty says.

When they get real  and speak about human rights China, North Korea, Burma, Tibet, Zimbabwe etc then they may have some credence. Until then Amnesty best shut up.



State of the World 2012


The Amnesty International Report 2012 documents the state of human rights during 2011. In five regional overviews and a country-by-country survey of 155 individual countries and territories, the report shows how the demand for human rights continued to resound in every corner of the globe.
Millions took to the streets of their towns and cities in a mass outpouring of hope for freedom and justice. Even the most brutal repression seemed unable to silence the increasingly urgent demands for an end to tyranny as people showed they were no longer willing to endure systems of governance that were not built on accountability, transparency, justice and the promotion of equality.
Resistance to injustice and repression took many forms, often inspiring acts of enormous courage and determination from the communities and individuals facing seemingly insuperable obstacles. In the face of indifference, threats and attacks, human rights defenders pursued legal challenges at the national and international level to long-standing impunity and endemic discrimination.
This report reflects an approach to tackling human rights abuses that is informed by both the challenges and the opportunities for change. As Amnesty International moves into its sixth decade, this report bears witness not only to the plight of those living in the shadow of human rights violations, but also to those who continue to be inspired to action by the principle of human dignity.


http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/state-of-the-world-2012


Download available from site or

http://www.amnestyusa.org/sites/default/files/air12-report-english.pdf


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Reply #7 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:43am
 
Indigenous Peoples’ rights
The government continued to limit funding for
housing and municipal services such as water and
sanitation to Aboriginal peoples living on traditional
homelands in the Northern Territory. As a result,
people were effectively forced to abandon their
traditional homelands to access essential services.
An expert panel on the constitutional recognition
of Indigenous Australians was due to provide
recommendations to the Federal Parliament by December.
Justice system
Indigenous Peoples, while accounting for roughly 2.5
per cent of Australia’s population, comprised 26 per cent
of the adult prison population. Half of all juveniles in
detention were Aboriginal. A parliamentary committee
report on Aboriginal youth and justice published in
June showed a jump of 66 per cent in Aboriginal
imprisonment rates between 2000 and 2009.

In September and October, security firm employees
were fined for failing to prevent the death of Aboriginal
elder Mr Ward, who collapsed from heatstroke in a
prison van in 2008.
Amnesty International Report 2012 67
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AIR_12_A-Z_part_01_U3:A-Z copy 1 02/04/2012 16:54 Page 67Refugees and asylum-seekers
In July, the Australian and Malaysian governments
agreed to swap 800 asylum-seekers who arrived by boat
in Australia with 4,000 refugees (predominantly from
Myanmar) who were in Malaysia awaiting resettlement.

42 asylum-seekers (predominantly Afghans),
including six unaccompanied boys, challenged their
removal to Malaysia. In a landmark decision, the High
Court ruled in August that the swap was invalid under
Australia’s Migration Act. The Act prohibits Australia
from deporting asylum-seekers to countries that do not
have sufficient legal guarantees for refugee protection
(see Malaysia entry).
As of November 5,733 people were in immigration
detention, including 441 children. Thirty-eight per cent
of the 5,733 had been detained for over 12 months.
Increasing rates of suicide and self-harm, including by
children as young as nine, were reported in nearly all
detention centres. In July, the Commonwealth
Ombudsman launched an investigation; the findings
remained pending.
In September, the government introduced
Complementary Protection laws that strengthened
protection for people fleeing abuses – such as female
genital mutilation, honour killings and the death
penalty – which are not covered by the UN Refugee
Convention.
Violence against women and children
In February, the National Plan to Reduce Violence
against Women and their Children was endorsed by
federal, state and territory governments.
International scrutiny
In January, Australia’s human rights record was
assessed for the first time under the UN Universal
Periodic Review. Australia agreed to ratify the Optional
Protocol to the UN Convention against Torture and to
consider ratifying ILO No. 169 Indigenous and Tribal
Peoples Convention. However, it rejected: introducing
a Human Rights Act; ending mandatory detention of
asylum-seekers; allowing same-sex marriage; and
compensating Indigenous People who were forcibly
removed from their families when they were children.
Amnesty International visits/reports

Amnesty International’s Secretary General visited Australia in October.

The land holds us: Aboriginal Peoples’ right to traditional homelands in
the Northern Territory (ASA 12/002/2011)
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2012 at 8:57am
 
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mantra wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 8:31am:
No-one seems to know what they're doing - but those refugees who have a negative security assessment have to be locked up. Isn't it better that they're in detention here indefinitely rather than imprisoned in their own country - or worse?




Should ASIO be able to do security checks of all Australians and residents and any that fail ASIO's assessment be locked up for the rest of their lives without knowing their crime.

Should this be done to protect Australians?


There would be many people who wouldn't object to that. Crime is escalating in our cities.

Detention is never forever - those who don't slip through the net and are found to have security issues are not Australians. Surely we're entitled to a little reassurance that as few criminals as possible are allowed their freedom.

On the other hand almost as many refugees come here by plane, but with passports and many of them work here in criminal gangs. If they are caught - they are subject to the same scrutiny.

There is no solution to the mass migration we've experienced over the last decade unless immigration is stopped altogether. This is what the majority of Australians appear to want if the last survey is accurate.
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Reply #9 - May 24th, 2012 at 9:06am
 
ASIO knows well what its job is and the strategy of subversives in waging cold war to tear down the morale and security of the Australian people.  Its their job to keep tabs on those activities and to also help educate Australians on the strategies of organizations like the Global Corporate Maggot (GCM) to conquer them through these tactics and rob them of their rights, their country and their freedom.  Australia was been on the losing end of a cold war for decades and frankly people like Peter Reith and the Greens deserve to be in gaol for effectively waging war against the Australian people with sustained propaganda attacks.
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Reply #10 - May 24th, 2012 at 9:10am
 
cods wrote on May 24th, 2012 at 8:22am:
why dont we ever hear about what they think is going on in the middle east for a change..

I know we get things wrong but at the end of the day we work bloody hard I think to right things..ok not to everyones satisfaction but for the most part.. yet here we are more condemnation for a country that people are flocking too.whys would they do that???... and yet not a word on the Middle. East Africa.Chile.even Greece with whats going on....

how about Haiti.. we havent heard about that place since forever.. it makes me sick it really does.


RT cods, the world news.

http://rt.com/

You know you won't go there because you're scared of the truth.
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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....
 
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