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May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:46pm

I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.

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Reply #1 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:08pm

The decision to award a try to Greg Inglis in the 73rd minute is nothing short of disgraceful. Radio and television commentators I was listening to at the time were all in agreement - Inglis dropped the ball and it should not have been a try. The standard of refereeing in this series opener had been - until that point - a major disappointment. Following that decision, I turned off the television. I just couldn't stomach the blatant bias against NSW from the referees. I realise that everyone makes mistakes, but the video referee presiding over the game tonight should be sacked, never to hold that position again. A blunder of that magnitude when the correct decision to be made was crystal clear is just not forgiveable.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60316 Here Gender:	Re: State of Origin Reply #2 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:13pm The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 27513 Gender:	Re: State of Origin Reply #3 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:26pm Dnarever wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:13pm: The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history. The try - I agree. The send-off, I am not so sure. He did run over and come in with a swinging arm and closed fist. Can't have that but perhaps being put on report might have been enough.
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Re: State of Origin
Reply #4 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:

I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.

The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne. Victorians just aren't interested in the game.

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin. There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned. Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... Sad

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair Grin

.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? Sad

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Reply #5 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:48pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:26pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:13pm:

The Try and the send off were probably two of the worst decisions in Origin history.

The try - I agree. The send-off, I am not so sure. He did run over and come in with a swinging arm and closed fist. Can't have that but perhaps being put on report might have been enough.

It was about 15 on one at the time and the guy who started it only got a mild slap on the wrist.

I have seen origin matches where if it was ruled to that standard all players on both teams would have been sent off.

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Reply #6 - May 24^th, 2012 at 6:26am

Swagman wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:

I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.

The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne. Victorians just aren't interested in the game.

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin. There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned. Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... Sad

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair Grin

.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? Sad

I agree that Origin games should not be played in Victoria, but disagree that they aren't interested in watching the game down there. It was a sellout crowd at the game last night and I suspect that is why (or one of the main reasons) the game was played there.

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Reply #7 - May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:26am:

Swagman wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:46pm:

I think that rugby league bosses are making a massive blunder with State of Origin on three fronts this year:

1. No games should be played in Victoria as there is no Victorian side in the series (and never has been).

2. The matches should be played on a weekend, not right in the middle of the week when most people have to work the following day.

3. The week of the State of Origin should be a bye for all clubs, so that those teams that have multiple players representing their state are not unfairly disadvantaged when playing against teams with few or none on representative duties.

The NRL need to quit having Origin games in Melbourne. Victorians just aren't interested in the game.

The Inglis try was a joke and so was the sin bin. There was easy half a dozen that should have been binned. Geesus such a close match was swung by crap decisions... Sad

Big Mal in his press conference reckons Inglis's try was fair Grin

.....I wonder what he would have said with the boot on the other foot...??? Sad

I agree that Origin games should not be played in Victoria, but disagree that they aren't interested in watching the game down there. It was a sellout crowd at the game last night and I suspect that is why (or one of the main reasons) the game was played there.

Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.

Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.

The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: State of Origin Reply #8 - May 24^th, 2012 at 9:19am They had me worried a bit, but in the end we pulled through. I watched the whole thing in a bush pub. (Probably the last time for me in Moura.) They are always the best for atmosphere. QUEENSLANDER!!!
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Reply #9 - May 24^th, 2012 at 10:03am

nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.

That's not the point. When NSW play QLD it should be in either NSW or QLD not VIC.

nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.

Fair enough but clubs should get a percentage of gate & broadcast rights payments per representative player that are unavailable for club games due to origin.

nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.

It would have been a simple knock on and a scrum with a NSW feed.

nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.

No way , totally disagree. He should have been placed on report and dealt with by the League judiciary.

This Ref decision arguable effected the result. Take a man out of the defensive line in the Origin just before half time and it was a gift 6 points. Stupid and biased decision. Angry

. The guy that threw the ball should have been binned as well as all the other guys that threw punches.

nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again

I watched last night's game at the pub, it was packed. Last year it was empty. There's alot more anticipation that NSW are back and competitive.

I'm looking forward to the next games as long as the Refs have a trip to Specsavers in the mean time... Cheesy

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41065 Gender:	Re: State of Origin Reply #10 - May 24^th, 2012 at 10:35am I thought the ref had a good game. the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate. the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal. We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.
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Reply #11 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:25pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

I thought the ref had a good game.

the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate.

the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal.

We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.

Really.....you'd better go to specsavers... Cheesy

Yeah, have a gloat but It wouldn't be the Origin without a 'blue' (no pun intended)

and last night's was pretty tame anyway. Yes, as I said the League should penalise the bloke but not the team. Put him on report and suspend him.

Sorry the boy from

Bowraville NSW

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QLD

spilled the ball but as usual QLD got the benefit of all the dodgy calls....

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Reply #12 - May 24^th, 2012 at 5:30pm

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Considering NSW have had one sell out in about 6 years i am amazed that Melbourne doesn't get a lot more games.

That's not the point. When NSW play QLD it should be in either NSW or QLD not VIC.

No the point is that both teams make the sacrifice every third year alternately and it is in the interests of the game as a whole. That NSW always has a pathetic whinge about it show everyone exactly why they are struggling.

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nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Wednesday is the traditional day for Origin, i was at the first game Wednesday night great feeling, oh and most importantly it is a ratings bonanza so they won't get the money for it on a weekend.

Fair enough but clubs should get a percentage of gate & broadcast rights payments per representative player that are unavailable for club games due to origin.

This is already in discussion. It has been put forward for debate in the lead up to the next media negotiation, both paying bonuses to players and compensation to teams who loose players to origin. Interesting that this attitude that the club matters more than state or country is what killed it in the AFL. NSW selfishness will kill Origin.

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nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

Ask yourself, if the incident had happened in general play what would it have been? I say it would have been play on six to go, it was a try or it was a penalty try for kicking in danger. Either he played at it in defence of the try and it was legal or he was lashing out and it was ilegal.

It would have been a simple knock on and a scrum with a NSW feed.

Rubbish, it would have been a penalty to QLD for kicking in danger. Roll Eyes

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nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

The bin was justified so long as that now stands as the benchmark for the series. Jennings ran 40 mtrs and then threw a clear punch with intent. At any other level he would be rubbed for six weeks, it was a lame attempt by an out of form player.

No way , totally disagree. He should have been placed on report and dealt with by the League judiciary.
This Ref decision arguable effected the result. Take a man out of the defensive line in the Origin just before half time and it was a gift 6 points. Stupid and biased decision. Angry

. The guy that threw the ball should have been binned as well as all the other guys that threw punches.

For fighting yes or any normal incident but that was a total brain explosion. He ran in from distance and threw a punch with intent to injure. It was a Les Boyd moment.

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nairbe wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 6:54am:

I see the players said it was a very fast game, it looked slow and QLD looked to struggle for most of the game, NSW were the better team but between some poor decision making in their halves and the joke they call a coach they will struggle to win. Stuart was disgraced as the Australian Coach with an outburst of bad sportsmanship and should never have coached at first grade level again

I watched last night's game at the pub, it was packed. Last year it was empty. There's alot more anticipation that NSW are back and competitive.

I'm looking forward to the next games as long as the Refs have a trip to Specsavers in the mean time... Cheesy

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NSW need to be loyal to what is an excellent team that can win this thing. There biggest impediments are their attitude to difficulty, team spirit and the idiot Coach. I see he was verbaling Harrigan today. He has no honor.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: State of Origin Reply #13 - May 24^th, 2012 at 11:06pm There is NO WAY this was kicking in danger. Inglis just spilled the ball. Nothing like Billy the Skid Slater from the 2008 GF. QLD are due for a few dud decisions, maybe one will cost them the series huh....
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Reply #14 - May 25^th, 2012 at 12:31am

Swagman wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:25pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 10:35am:

I thought the ref had a good game.

the NSW ran in from 30 M away and threw a haymaker - have a rest mate.

the ball was kicked from Inglis's hand - which is illegal.

We won, NSW lost. It was a good game.

Really.....you'd better go to specsavers... Cheesy

Yeah, have a gloat but It wouldn't be the Origin without a 'blue' (no pun intended)

and last night's was pretty tame anyway. Yes, as I said the League should penalise the bloke but not the team. Put him on report and suspend him.

Sorry the boy from

Bowraville NSW

that plays for

QLD

spilled the ball but as usual QLD got the benefit of all the dodgy calls....

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/05/24/1226365/103891-defcon-gi-joke.jp...

If this happened to you Toads or the mighty Bonkos you'd be in uproar.. Sad

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