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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120426 Melbourne Gender:	Re: People Renting Chook Pens And Garages. Reply #30 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm FD, Quote: Chookpens are not exactly a trend. My brother converted his garage into a granny flat complete with shower, toilet, wash room, with a stove & living room, bedroom combo & he rents it out for $200 a week.
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Reply #31 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:57pm

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:49pm:

Poor people don't complain about the price of buying a house. They complain about the price of renting one. It is hardly fair to make the renters pay more so wealthier people can buy a house.

People have to live somewhere, so in practice they do have to pay the higher price. Chookpens are not exactly a trend.

renters would pay less if the price of property dropped. This can only happen if no incentives are given to property speculators to hoard property and blow up property bubbles by making property scarce.

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Reply #33 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:00pm:

Property speculation receives the same incentives as share speculation and any other form of investment.

It beats bear and cigarettes. Or yachts and caviar.

yes but you can't live in a share !! Property is a necessity not a luxury. Speculating in property and blowing up bubbles has wrecked major economies around the world causing instability as we are now seeing Sad

People who buy land and make capital gains from doing no work off the backs of real businesses are nothing more than parasites and is sending the wrong message to people where you don't have to work to create wealth because you can chisel it out of some sucker with a whole lot of bank debt. This explains why Australia has divested itself of manufacturing and replaced it with property ponzi scams which creates nothing in the end except debt Sad

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Reply #34 - May 24^th, 2012 at 9:17am

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm:

FD,
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Chookpens are not exactly a trend.

My brother converted his garage into a granny flat complete with
shower, toilet, wash room, with a stove & living room, bedroom combo
& he rents it out for $200 a week.

Heh nobody on the dole could afford your brothers garage.

I paid $50 a week for a while to live in a shipping container in canberra.

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Reply #35 - May 24^th, 2012 at 9:21am

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:00pm:

Property speculation receives the same incentives as share speculation and any other form of investment.

It beats bear and cigarettes. Or yachts and caviar.

yes but you can't live in a share !! Property is a necessity not a luxury. Speculating in property and blowing up bubbles has wrecked major economies around the world causing instability as we are now seeing Sad

People who buy land and make capital gains from doing no work off the backs of real businesses are nothing more than parasites and is sending the wrong message to people where you don't have to work to create wealth because you can chisel it out of some sucker with a whole lot of bank debt. This explains why Australia has divested itself of manufacturing and replaced it with property ponzi scams which creates nothing in the end except debt Sad

Gawd you are annoying. Anyone that has a house or even 2 houses has to work to pay them off. Nobody NOW is going to buy a 2nd house for investment purposes negative gearing or not because they cost so much.

Ppl that are stuck with houses they bought when it was cheaper are not able to get rid of them.

Saying that ppl that invested in property are lazy is just stupid though. Oh and capital gains is a thing of the past.

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Reply #36 - May 24^th, 2012 at 11:10am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm:

FD,
Quote:

Chookpens are not exactly a trend.

My brother converted his garage into a granny flat complete with
shower, toilet, wash room, with a stove & living room, bedroom combo
& he rents it out for $200 a week.

Heh nobody on the dole could afford your brothers garage.

I paid $50 a week for a while to live in a shipping container in canberra.

SOB

It's actually quite nice inside that garage.
It's fully lined & you'd never know that it used to be a garage.
He is renting it to a Malaysian student who's parents have plenty of money.

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Reply #37 - May 24^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 9:21am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:43pm:

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:00pm:

Property speculation receives the same incentives as share speculation and any other form of investment.

It beats bear and cigarettes. Or yachts and caviar.

yes but you can't live in a share !! Property is a necessity not a luxury. Speculating in property and blowing up bubbles has wrecked major economies around the world causing instability as we are now seeing Sad

People who buy land and make capital gains from doing no work off the backs of real businesses are nothing more than parasites and is sending the wrong message to people where you don't have to work to create wealth because you can chisel it out of some sucker with a whole lot of bank debt. This explains why Australia has divested itself of manufacturing and replaced it with property ponzi scams which creates nothing in the end except debt Sad

Gawd you are annoying. Anyone that has a house or even 2 houses has to work to pay them off. Nobody NOW is going to buy a 2nd house for investment purposes negative gearing or not because they cost so much.

Ppl that are stuck with houses they bought when it was cheaper are not able to get rid of them.

Saying that ppl that invested in property are lazy is just stupid though. Oh and capital gains is a thing of the past.

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What work are you talking about ?

They buy an investment property hopping to off load the risk by renting it out and getting the tenant to pay it off for them. They just sit on their arse collecting rent and getting tax deductions for the interest they pay or any maintenance they need. They can even offset any costs from their own income stream and all of the whilst benefiting from capital gains !!

What do the tenants get out of all of this and why can't first home buyers get these concessions ?

You should watch this doco. It explains the scam in detail.

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Reply #38 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:02pm

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 11:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm:

FD,
Quote:

Chookpens are not exactly a trend.

My brother converted his garage into a granny flat complete with
shower, toilet, wash room, with a stove & living room, bedroom combo
& he rents it out for $200 a week.

Heh nobody on the dole could afford your brothers garage.

I paid $50 a week for a while to live in a shipping container in canberra.

SOB

It's actually quite nice inside that garage.
It's fully lined & you'd never know that it used to be a garage.
He is renting it to a Malaysian student who's parents have plenty of money.

I hope you have cast the capitalist pig greedy landlord of a brother out for taking advantage of poor renters.

Hope you brother has a firewall between the garage and the house up to the top of the roof line, or your bro is in some deep shyte.

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Reply #39 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 11:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 9:17am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:53pm:

FD,
Quote:

Chookpens are not exactly a trend.

My brother converted his garage into a granny flat complete with
shower, toilet, wash room, with a stove & living room, bedroom combo
& he rents it out for $200 a week.

Heh nobody on the dole could afford your brothers garage.

I paid $50 a week for a while to live in a shipping container in canberra.

SOB

It's actually quite nice inside that garage.
It's fully lined & you'd never know that it used to be a garage.
He is renting it to a Malaysian student who's parents have plenty of money.

I lived in a converted train carriage for 8 years.

It was rough and primitive, but I loved it.

$75 a week rent when I moved in, that rose to $90 over the 8 years.

Electricity and free veges thrown-in.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26588 Australia	Re: People Renting Chook Pens And Garages. Reply #40 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:49pm Wow. Thats pretty cool Not sure if its legal though. Not sure about the shipping container either. Apparently theres a law that ceilings have to be a certain height. SOB
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: People Renting Chook Pens And Garages. Reply #41 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:54pm The carriage's interior - the lounge-room.
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Reply #42 - May 24^th, 2012 at 4:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 4:49pm:

Wow. Thats pretty cool

Not sure if its legal though. Not sure about the shipping container either. Apparently theres a law that ceilings have to be a certain height.

SOB

Um....it wasn't (technically) because the wiring (until I re-wired it) and
the plumbing (again, until I re-did it) were sub-standard.

We didn't care, tho......well, I certainly didn't.

I was escaping from a violent situation, and it was this or homelessness.

No contest, really.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5520 Gender:	Re: People Renting Chook Pens And Garages. Reply #43 - May 24^th, 2012 at 5:03pm i could definitely live in one of those, kat
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5520 Gender:	Re: People Renting Chook Pens And Garages. Reply #44 - May 24^th, 2012 at 5:04pm it doesnt look that bad at all to me
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