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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! May 21^st, 2012 at 7:06pm No one wants their children to be labelled an attack hound dog from birth!!!
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5520 Gender:	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #1 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 12:31pm that and who wants to spend their sundays bored as sh!t
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41833 Gender:	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #2 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:10pm I ride past churches very often that are far from dead, and according to all the people there, far from boring.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #3 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:20pm I just hope they dont get like the yank ones. SOB
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:25pm Christain denominations in general are waning, and I put the main cause as them selling out their principles in a vain attempt to win over the haters. Show a bit of backbone - the haters will hate no matter what. Appeasement just makes you look soft, and emboldens your enemies.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #5 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:32pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:20pm: I just hope they dont get like the yank ones. SOB Like this you mean? http://www.riverviewchurch.com.au/
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #6 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 2:03pm Uncle Meat wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:32pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:20pm: I just hope they dont get like the yank ones. SOB Like this you mean? http://www.riverviewchurch.com.au/ Maybe. I was thinking of that "westboro baptist" one. SOB
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #7 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 5:53pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:10pm: I ride past churches very often that are far from dead, and according to all the people there, far from boring. Yeh, right mate: we all believe you!
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Reply #8 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:41am

Certainly attendances are down on what they were, say fifty or more years ago, but this does not mean that the Christian church is dead. There are a number of factors at play here.

With immigration from countries that are predominantly non-Christian, the proportion of Christan believers (as opposed to those who were baptised in a Christian church but do not follow the religion) is less than it was in years gone by. There has been a rise in agnosticism and atheism, as these viewpoints are now considered respectable and mainstream. There is no longer an attitude that it was a right and proper thing to go to church on Sunday for appearances sake only.

There may be less people attending Christian churches now, but the churches are actually stronger as a result, as the members of their congregations are now (mostly) committed believers. At the last mass I was at (I have to admit I don't go every week - it was three or four weeks ago) the church was about half full (or half empty if you prefer) but that was a weekday evening - on Sundays there are considerably more there. I have seen occasions (usually at special times such as Christmas or Easter) when there is standing room only.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #9 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:54am Look @ this one. I certainly hope australia doesnt get churches like this. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gmOWzy1VVldtA_1JulrYKsdjV9_w?... SOB
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Reply #10 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 9:14am

Frances wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 8:41am:

Certainly attendances are down on what they were, say fifty or more years ago, but this does not mean that the Christian church is dead. There are a number of factors at play here.

With immigration from countries that are predominantly non-Christian, the proportion of Christan believers (as opposed to those who were baptised in a Christian church but do not follow the religion) is less than it was in years gone by. There has been a rise in agnosticism and atheism, as these viewpoints are now considered respectable and mainstream. There is no longer an attitude that it was a right and proper thing to go to church on Sunday for appearances sake only.

There may be less people attending Christian churches now, but the churches are actually stronger as a result, as the members of their congregations are now (mostly) committed believers. At the last mass I was at (I have to admit I don't go every week - it was three or four weeks ago) the church was about half full (or half empty if you prefer) but that was a weekday evening - on Sundays there are considerably more there. I have seen occasions (usually at special times such as Christmas or Easter) when there is standing room only.

attendances may be down in the west but everywhere else - including china - the church is booming. Chinas church is getting close to 100m. not exactly 'dead'.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #11 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 10:13am Yeah. They arent dead. In UK they are getting quieter though (as it should be) and minding their own business. Here they arent too bad I guess as a generality. One day they will be gone. Hopefully. SOB
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS DEAD FOR A REASON! Reply #12 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 4:20pm People don't go to Church for a reason!
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