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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #105 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:30pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:10pm:

After reading 10 years of almost unanimous scientific peer-reviewed journals tracking mans contribution to AGW, how can you suddenly come to the exact opposite conclusion, and then claim to be open minded.

What conclusion? (why do you refuse to answer this question?)

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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #106 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:45pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:10pm:

... and so to repeat myself, your position as stated, can only come from a closed mind...

LOL

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum.

You obviously have no idea what the term closed mind means.

This is not from a closed mind:

" currently, I don't subscribe to the AGW hypothesis (as the evidence is less than reliable), however, I'm willing to keep an open-mind on the subject and will analyse each new piece of evidence that is presented. In the future I may very well support the AGW hypothesis, that is, if any credible and reliable evidence is eventually presented."

Why is it not from a closed mind? These are the key words/phrases to look out for:

- currently
- however
- willing to keep an open mind (that was a dead giveaway)
- in the future I may

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #107 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:48pm Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:39am: The earth has warm and cooled for many millions of years. Long long time before even humans were here. ....jewish propaganda , lol! What's with the flag man?
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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #108 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:50pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:45pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:10pm:

... and so to repeat myself, your position as stated, can only come from a closed mind...

LOL

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum.

You obviously have no idea what the term closed mind means.

This is not from a closed mind:

" currently, I don't subscribe to the AGW hypothesis (as the evidence is less than reliable), however, I'm willing to keep an open-mind on the subject and will analyse each new piece of evidence that is presented. In the future I may very well support the AGW hypothesis, that is, if any credible and reliable evidence is eventually presented."

Why is it not from a closed mind? These are the key words/phrases to look out for:

- currently
- however
- willing to keep an open mind (that was a dead giveaway)
- in the future I may

Roll Eyes

Uncle Meat is still trying to put his hand down the pants of the unborn.

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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #109 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:10pm:

After reading 10 years of almost unanimous scientific peer-reviewed journals tracking mans contribution to AGW, how can you suddenly come to the exact opposite conclusion, and then claim to be open minded.

What conclusion? (why do you refuse to answer this question?)

10 years of overwhelming peer-reviewed scientific research (following many years previously) comes to the conclusion that man is primarily responsible for the current warming. AGW = man made climate change.

You ignore all that, and say man isnt primarily responsible. That is closed minded, and can only come from a mind which has dismissed AGW 10 years ago, and will not take in any data.

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #110 - May 21^st, 2012 at 4:59pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:50pm: Uncle Meat is still trying to put his hand down the pants of the unborn. Nope, that's your thing. I hope you enjoy your time in a cell with Bubba.
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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #111 - May 21^st, 2012 at 5:09pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm:

10 years of overwhelming peer-reviewed scientific research (following many years previously) comes to the conclusion ...

... that AGW is a likely hypothesis. Yes, everybody knows that.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm:

You ignore all that ...

I do no such thing. Stop telling lies you naughty little boy.

" ... will analyse each new piece of evidence that is presented. In the future I may very well support the AGW hypothesis"

" A, B and C have caused warming in the past therefore we can not exclude them as possible causes of current warming. However, D could also be a contributor and it should not be ignored." (D represents AGW, in case you haven't been keeping up).

Can't you read? Stop telling your little lies and actually read my posts before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm:

... has dismissed AGW 10 years ago, and will not take in any data.

You haven't read any of my posts, have you?

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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #113 - May 21^st, 2012 at 5:13pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm:

You ignore all that, and say man isnt primarily responsible. That is closed minded, and can only come from a mind which has dismissed AGW 10 years ago, and will not take in any data.

What part of this don't you understand?

" ... I'm willing to keep an open-mind on the subject and will analyse each new piece of evidence that is presented. In the future I may very well support the AGW hypothesis ... "

Seriously? Roll Eyes

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #114 - May 21^st, 2012 at 6:15pm corporate_whitey wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 5:10pm: People should be deported for this lying crap. Aboriginals should be killed for breathing whiteys air!
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #115 - May 21^st, 2012 at 6:29pm AS Harry Seccombe said in the Goon show, "Gee its hot, must be the heat!"
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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #116 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:17am

Uncle Meat, there is overwhelming evidence for D and nothing that substantiates A, B or C. That is my understanding of where the science is at. Since the consequences of D range from very dangerous to catastrophic we need to act on the assumption D is correct. You might be able to argue semantically that you have an open mind but that doesn't mean you are behaving rationally.

Besides against D, can you articulate your understanding of what is driving the shift in our climate. Muso had a very good post where he outlined the problems with A, B and C, can you put any of them back in the frame. All you seem to want to do is play semantics, isn't it about time you tested some of your premises.

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #117 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 10:39am Uncle Meat, If experts in the field tell you the sky is blue, do you still keep an open mind that it might be green ? Thats what you sound like.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #118 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 10:58am MOTR wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:17am: Since the consequences of D range from very dangerous to catastrophic ... Mere speculation. Stop the fear mongering.
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Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
Reply #119 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 11:07am

MOTR wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:17am:

... isn't it about time you tested some of your premises.

Actually, that's what the AGW disciples need to do.

Refusing to accept any other possibility other than "the globe is warming at dangerous levels and man is fully responsible for it" is not scientific. It's dogmatism and fear mongering.

Climate change is a scientific issue; the AGW disciples seem to have forgotten this fact.

I'll continue to keep an open mind on the subject.

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