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Record Temperatures in the Pipeline.
May 20^th, 2012 at 8:25am

Just out of back to back La Nina's and remarkably the month of April was still the 5th hottest on record. With expectations of an oncoming El Nino, record high temperatures seem inevitable before the end of the year.

This was the 36th consecutive April and 326th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last April with below average temperature was April 1976. The last month with a below-average temperature was February 1985.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #1 - May 20^th, 2012 at 8:46am I live up in the mountains and still have tomato seedling appearing in the compost. Wait until La Nina dries out the Blue Mountains and Western Sydney ... along with the rest of Australia. Thanks a lot deniers for increasing the risk ... and insurance policies for all Australians
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #2 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:39am The earth has warm and cooled for many millions of years. Long long time before even humans were here.
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Reply #3 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:50am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 9:39am:

The earth has warm and cooled for many millions of years.

Long long time before even humans were here.

Yes. No one disputes that. Do you have a point. Let me guess A, B and C have caused warming in the past therefore we can exclude D as the current cause of warming. That my friend is an illogical argument. While you are studying in Australia I'd suggest a critical reasoning course.

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Reply #4 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:53am

You know too all of the other planets, they are either warming or cooling too.

None with human actions on them.

I think people sometimes they need to stop and think what they are saying. Of the earth time, we (people) has been here for about 0.000000001% of the time of the Earth - maybe less.

Yet the earth has become very very hot, very very cold and in between this.

Please, show perspective on this subject.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #5 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:01am Nature responds to CO2, whether we are here or not. It just so happens we are here and the cause of rising atmospheric CO2 is us this time.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #6 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:03am Any idea why it is warming at the moment, Avram?
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Reply #7 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:11am

See all that warming up in the Arctic. Well once the billions of tones of methane and carbon dioxide are released by the thawing of tundra soils, and once the arctic sea ice disappears reducing the albedo effect, nature will dominate any influence we have on temperature. Global warming will become a runway train.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #8 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:13am It is the responsibility of China, USA and India. You know they 3 cause 50% of world CO2? In Israel for example we cause 0.1%. You see who need to take action? Australia - you are less than 0.13%. Who cares what you do? it dont matter to world total.
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #9 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:14am MOTR wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:03am: Any idea why it is warming at the moment, Avram? You know the planet of Mars is warming at same rate. Is that humans too?
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Record Temperatures in the Pipeline. Reply #10 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:28am The temperature on Mars is a very indirect way of measuring solar output. Direct measures of solar radiation tell us that solar output is actually decreasing.
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Reply #11 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:32am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

It is the responsibility of China, USA and India.

You know they 3 cause 50% of world CO2?

In Israel for example we cause 0.1%.

You see who need to take action?

Australia - you are less than 0.13%. Who cares what you do? it dont matter to world total.

Free riders have no credibility and collectively contribute substantially to the problem.

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Reply #12 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:37am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

It is the responsibility of China, USA and India.

You know they 3 cause 50% of world CO2?

In Israel for example we cause 0.1%.

You see who need to take action?

Australia - you are less than 0.13%. Who cares what you do? it dont matter to world total.

Like Iran has 0.001% of the nuclear weapons.

Why act on Iran

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Reply #13 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:38am

MOTR wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

It is the responsibility of China, USA and India.

You know they 3 cause 50% of world CO2?

In Israel for example we cause 0.1%.

You see who need to take action?

Australia - you are less than 0.13%. Who cares what you do? it dont matter to world total.

Free riders have no credibility and collectively contribute substantially to the problem.

3 countries make up 50%.

Tell me - if one of these three do something - is it the same as the Falkland Islands or Guadaloupe doing some action?

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Reply #14 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:38am

____ wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

It is the responsibility of China, USA and India.

You know they 3 cause 50% of world CO2?

In Israel for example we cause 0.1%.

You see who need to take action?

Australia - you are less than 0.13%. Who cares what you do? it dont matter to world total.

Like Iran has 0.001% of the nuclear weapons.

Why act on Iran

Because Iran directly threatens the safety of the Israeli people.

But this is not to do with this topic./

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