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Reply #60 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 3:17am

Yadda wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:57am:

But, it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats to murder people.

falah,

Isn't it true that it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats, and that moslems are justifying those threats of violence [against non-moslems] using the excuse of, their religious 'piety' ?
Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 Koran 9.29

Dictionary;
pious = = devoutly religious.

Isn't it ISLAM and moslems, who are threatening to muder all non-moslems [if non-moslems refuse to allow moslems to impose ISLAMIC law in our non-moslem societies] ?

falah,

Isn't it true that moslems can 'righteously' kill non-moslems, whenever killing non-moslems is done to help make Allah's religion superior in the land [i.e. 'fighting in Allah's cause'] ?

Isn't it true that the never ending moslem 'struggle' against non-moslems is a 'righteous' 'struggle', even when that 'struggle' will include moslem violence against non-moslems ?

Isn't it true that moslems intend to use force [violence] to impose ISLAMIC law upon all non-moslems, at a future moment, when the time is suited to moslems, at the 'opportune' moment ?

falah,

Are moslems justified in making war against non-moslems, because they are non-moslems ?
Koran 2.98 Koran 4.74-76 Koran 47:8-11

Are moslems justified in killing non-moslems, if non-moslems resist moslems who are seeking to impose ISLAMIC law, in host societies, where moslems reside as cultural guests ?

The 'multicultural' chooks are coming home to roost in Germany......

Google;
"Germany: Islamic supremacist calls for murder of members of anti-Sharia party"

falah,

If moslems murder Germans who are of members of an anti-Sharia party, WOULD THAT BE A RIGHTEOUS KILLING, by moslems, in the 'cause of Allah' ???

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"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

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......"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Reply #61 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 3:35am

Yadda wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:57am:

But, it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats to murder people.

falah,

Isn't it true that it is ISLAM and moslems, who are making all of the threats, and that moslems are justifying those threats of violence [against non-moslems] using the excuse of, their religious 'piety' ?
Koran 9.123 Koran 9.111 Koran 9.29

Dictionary;
pious = = devoutly religious.

Isn't it ISLAM and moslems, who are threatening to muder all non-moslems [if non-moslems refuse to allow moslems to impose ISLAMIC law in our non-moslem societies] ?

falah,

Isn't it true that moslems can 'righteously' kill non-moslems, whenever killing non-moslems is done to help make Allah's religion superior in the land [i.e. 'fighting in Allah's cause'] ?

Isn't it true that the never ending moslem 'struggle' against non-moslems is a 'righteous' 'struggle', even when that 'struggle' will include moslem violence against non-moslems ?

Isn't it true that moslems intend to use force [violence] to impose ISLAMIC law upon all non-moslems, at a future moment, when the time is suited to moslems, at the 'opportune' moment ?

falah,

Are moslems justified in making war against non-moslems, because they are non-moslems ?
Koran 2.98 Koran 4.74-76 Koran 47:8-11

Are moslems justified in killing non-moslems, if non-moslems resist moslems who are seeking to impose ISLAMIC law, in host societies, where moslems reside as cultural guests ?

AND, the 'moslem democracy', the 'moslem freedom', and teh 'Arab Spring way' chooks are all coming home to roost in Egypt......

Google;
"Egypt: Islamic supremacists warn of "armed action," murder if secularist wins presidency"

falah,

If moslems murder secularists in Egypt, so as to steal the upcoming election,
WOULD THESE BE RIGHTEOUS KILLINGS,
by moslems, in the 'cause of Allah' ???

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"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026

"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i

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......"He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause."

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Hey falah,

Your fate is sealed.

But you are just to dumb to acknowledge it.

You and your 'brothers' are the 'kuffar'.
[.....the liars, the deceivers, those who hide and deny the truth.]

Two of my favourite Koran verses..... Grin

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120

"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily [God] knoweth all that ye did;"
Koran 16.27

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #62 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it? SOB
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Re: Yaddas Beliefs
Reply #63 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 8:42am

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 10:44pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm:

[quote author=6E69646960080 link=1337382690/55#55 date=1337598631][quote author=34203737363B243720520 link=1337382690/49#49 date=1337554001]

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

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(Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17

Freeliar what is "the Law" in the Biblical sense? Does it not cover all the commands to kill from Old Testament?

Let's face it, Kony may be a murderer but at least, unlike you, he is honest about the Bible.

I would expect it is the ten commandments. Jesus outlines very clearly in that same passage what the 'religious' punishment is - the same punishment you promote for men who rape their wives and slaves.

In any case, I would not be so silly as to tell people what their beliefs are. If you want to know Falah, try asking them instead. Most people are not ashamed of their beliefs and are happy to tell you about them.

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Reply #64 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 1:21pm

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 8:42am:

falah wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 10:44pm:

freediver wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:54pm:

[quote author=6E69646960080 link=1337382690/55#55 date=1337598631][quote author=34203737363B243720520 link=1337382690/49#49 date=1337554001]

Was there anything in the passage I referred to about killing people?

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(Jesus said) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the way of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17

Freeliar what is "the Law" in the Biblical sense? Does it not cover all the commands to kill from Old Testament?

Let's face it, Kony may be a murderer but at least, unlike you, he is honest about the Bible.

I would expect it is the ten commandments.

That is not how 'the Law' was understood by adherents of the Bible in the time of Jesus Freeliar.

The 'Law' was understood to be all the commands by God in the Bible - which includes the death penalty for a number of crimes including being disobedient to your parents.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #65 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:31pm I hope you don't expect me to take you seriously when it comes to other religions Falah. I can't even get you to be honest about Islam.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #66 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 7:54am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am: Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it? SOB Well? SOB
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #67 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:09am freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:31pm: I hope you don't expect me to take you seriously when it comes to other religions Falah. I can't even get you to be honest about Islam. Deflection Freeliar?
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Reply #68 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:11am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:40am:

Yadda is leviticus in the OT or do you have to abide by it?

SOB

sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?

Quote:

A covenant is an agreement made between two party's.

I am not Jewish,......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1337382690/59#59

Yes, Leviticus is in the OT.

I have to abide by God's law.

If i sin against God's law, God will destroy me.

Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

What is God's law ???

God's law, is the law of righteousness.

Matthew 6:33
.....seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;....

Jeremiah 9:23
Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

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Loving kindness, righteousness AND, judgement.

What is 'righteousness' ?

"And what is good, Phaedrus? And what is not good? Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?"

Plato
and found in, Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance

But what is 'righteousness' ?

Just like everyone else [here], i have been given the freedom to make [moral] choices in this life.

What is 'righteousness' ?

That is our responsibility, we choose to know good, OR, we choose to know evil.

It is a simple choice.

We merely have to choose to seek the light [truth], or, choose to KNOW the darkness [i.e. seeking to act just as you please [i.e. lawlessness], all the while seeking to avoid responsibility for the consequences of your choices].

And seeking to avoid responsibility for the consequences of our choices, is what people who love lawlessness tend to do, i.e. >> CRIMINALS<<.

'lawlessness'

???

Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

God hates lawlessness [in men] !

And he will not tolerate it, in us.

Psalms 5:4
For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.

If you are a person who chooses lawlessness, in this life, God will destroy you.

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Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #70 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:32am Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am: You asked for it, SOB. Yes. I did. 4 times. Thanks for finally answering yadda. I just wanted to know if it was the xtians or the jews that believe in leviticus. Geez. SOB
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Reply #71 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:33am

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:21am:

You asked for it, SOB.

Exactly K. Grin

Be careful what you ask for. Wink

Eh ?

In our journey here, we either come to love God, and his righteousness, OR, we choose the world.

The vast majority of mankind, will choose this world, and what it offers.

Death [....ultimately].

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1 John 5:4
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26589 Australia	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #72 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:35am Edited: sob, Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ? Yadda you had not answered my question I had asked 4 times. All I wanted to know was if leviticus was in the OT. Thankyou for finally answering. Okay. Then you are not bound by the OT except for the 10 commandments right? SOB
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Reply #73 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:54am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 23^rd, 2012 at 11:35am:

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sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?

Yadda you had not answered my question I had asked 4 times.

All I wanted to know was if leviticus was in the OT.

Thankyou for finally answering.

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 7:43am:

Thanks Falah I was going to make this thread.

I have read the koran.

I have read the bible.

SOB

sob reads bible.

but sob does not comprehend, does not know, if the book of Leviticus is in the bible.

???

Like Yadda said.......

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sob,

Are you another one, who does not comprehend the English language ?

sob,

Did you give the same attention to the content of the Koran, as what you did, when you read the bible ???

Tongue

I'm sure that you did. Tongue

"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."

Koran 1.1

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Reply #74 - May 23^rd, 2012 at 12:24pm

Okay yadda. If you ant to be that way.

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sob reads bible.

but sob does not comprehend, does not know, if the book of Leviticus is in the bible.

Speaking of comprehension the question was about whether it was OT or NT. Obviously i knew it was in the bible.

I did not memorise all the chapter names. I bet you dont know all the chapter names either but you would know which are OT and NT if you only are bound by 1 of them.

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Did you give the same attention to the content of the Koran, as what you did, when you read the bible ???

I read them I didnt memorise them. As I pointed out @ the beginning I dont know which bits are figurative and which are literal. This is why I am asking you the questions.

Now that I addressed your pathetic attempt @ diversion can you tell me what I want to know?

Okay. Then you are not bound by the OT except for the 10 commandments right?

Do you believe you have to kill or "stone" anyone in your religion?

SOB

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