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Yaddas Beliefs
May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 22:13-22: If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Theres heaps more but there ya go

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53256 At my desk.	Re: Yaddas Beliefs Reply #1 - May 19^th, 2012 at 9:34am Borg, they sound like Bible quotes, not Yadda's beliefs. By way of a guide, here is a list of our resident Muslims' actual beliefs, with links to where they said it: http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Islam_and_Australian_values
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Reply #2 - May 19^th, 2012 at 9:47am

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:34am:

Borg, they sound like Bible quotes, not Yadda's beliefs.

By way of a guide, here is a list of our resident Muslims' actual beliefs, with links to where they said it:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Islam_and_Australian_values

Yadda pastes bible verses all the time. Its just as bad as the koran. If you are going to judge religions then there ya go. Next will be avrams torah. In it you are supposed to stone ppl and put them to death too.

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Reply #3 - May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm

You are missing the point Borg. The problem is not what is written. The problem is when people want to stone others to death for thought crimes, consensual sex etc. Abu and Falah actually want this. Without that connection back to reality, your point about religion is largely moot. After all, you did not title this thread Christianity. You titled it Yadda's beliefs. But you ended up telling Yadda what he believed. You should let Yadda decide for himself what he believes, and criticise that, if you still think it is wrong.

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Reply #4 - May 19^th, 2012 at 12:50pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

You are missing the point Borg. The problem is not what is written. The problem is when people want to stone others to death for thought crimes, consensual sex etc. Abu and Falah actually want this. Without that connection back to reality, your point about religion is largely moot. After all, you did not title this thread Christianity. You titled it Yadda's beliefs. But you ended up telling Yadda what he believed. You should let Yadda decide for himself what he believes, and criticise that, if you still think it is wrong.

Yadda says he would kill all Palestinians...a moot point?

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Reply #5 - May 19^th, 2012 at 12:59pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 22:13-22: If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Theres heaps more but there ya go

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Reply #6 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:50pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

You are missing the point Borg. The problem is not what is written. The problem is when people want to stone others to death for thought crimes, consensual sex etc. Abu and Falah actually want this. Without that connection back to reality, your point about religion is largely moot. After all, you did not title this thread Christianity. You titled it Yadda's beliefs. But you ended up telling Yadda what he believed. You should let Yadda decide for himself what he believes, and criticise that, if you still think it is wrong.

Yadda says he would kill all Palestinians...a moot point?

Perhaps they are shites.

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Reply #7 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 9:11am:

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Deuteronomy 22:13-22: If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel.

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

Theres heaps more but there ya go

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deuteronomy = OT = jews.

How about leviticus?

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Reply #10 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:11pm:

How about what Yadda actually believes?

He believes in the bible doesnt he? I might have to change this thread to "avram" though we shall see. Not being religous i have trouble telling them apart.

Which is why im doing this as you well know freediver. You judge someones religion to be "extreme" but to most normal ppl all these religions are extreme.

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Reply #11 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam. It is hard to find one that counts as moderate. Abu has claimed before that he represents mainstream Islam, and it is hard to fault him on that claim.

At the end of the day, you can only go by what these people believe. Trying to interpret their bible for them gets silly very quickly. That's why you titled this thread Yadda's beliefs, not 'me telling Christians what they believe'.

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Reply #12 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

Tell that to the people in Africa who have been raped or had their limbs hacked off by fundamentalist Christian militias run by Kony.

Did George Bush really believe that God told him to start a 'Crusade' in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why is it that Jews keep telling us that they should be allowed to violently dispossess Palestinians? Something about the Bible promising them Palestine isn't?

Why are Christians blowing up abortion clinics in the US?

Every terrorist attack in Australia in living memory carried out by white Christians!

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Reply #13 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

Tell that to the people in Africa who have been raped or had their limbs hacked off by fundamentalist Christian militias run by Kony.

Did George Bush really believe that God told him to start a 'Crusade' in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why is it that Jews keep telling us that they should be allowed to violently dispossess Palestinians? Something about the Bible promising them Palestine isn't?

Why are Christians blowing up abortion clinics in the US?

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

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Reply #14 - May 19^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:42pm:

falah wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:34pm:

freediver wrote on May 19^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

You can get extremists from every religion. There just seems to be a lot more from Islam.

Tell that to the people in Africa who have been raped or had their limbs hacked off by fundamentalist Christian militias run by Kony.

Did George Bush really believe that God told him to start a 'Crusade' in Afghanistan and Iraq?

Why is it that Jews keep telling us that they should be allowed to violently dispossess Palestinians? Something about the Bible promising them Palestine isn't?

Why are Christians blowing up abortion clinics in the US?

So you condemn religious extremism? Do you condemn the same in the name of Islam?

I condemn extremism...and not all of it is religious. Many acts of extremism have been carried out by atheist communists, socialists, anarchists, animal liberationists, etc.

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