Uncle Meat wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:33am:


You're wrong, Meat. Righty heard this on David Oldfield's program.

Why would he and Alan lie?

Gist wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:35am:


Gist, Righty doesn't even know who Matty is. Also, Righty is a lady.

It's true that Righty wants to become a specialist and earn $180,000 a year, but there are many women with similar aspirations.

I would have no problems with Matty going out with a nice, sensible girl like Righty - as long as they were appropriately supervised.

It's that awful Juliar I have a problem with, as I'm sure you'll agree. That woman is poison.

CommonSense wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 10:23am:



Nope, you're completely wrong there.

It's classified as unauthorised entry.  It is not illegal, and they are not illegal immigrants.  You seem to be a little confused on the issue.

"The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a
signatory) recognises that refugees have a right to
enter a country for the purposes of seeking asylum,
regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold
valid travel or identity documents. The Convention
stipulates that what would usually be considered as
illegal actions (e.g. entering a country without a visa)
should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking
asylum. This means that it is incorrect to refer to
asylum seekers who arrive without authorisation as
“illegal”, as they in fact have a right to enter Australia
to seek asylum.

"In line with our obligations under the Convention,
Australian law also permits unauthorised entry into
Australia for the purposes of seeking asylum. Asylum
seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by
arriving on boats or without authorisation."

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/docs/news&events/rw/2011_RW_ResourceKit_Ch4.pdf

Simple facts.

Not illegal immigrants.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:29pm:



There are already a variety of schemes in place for homeless Australians.

For example:

"People experiencing homelessness may access a wide range of general government services, including:

•General health services
•Drug rehabilitation programs
•General community services
•Housing assistance"

http://www.aihw.gov.au/homelessness/


"There are many programs run by government and voluntary organisations that aim to tackle homelessness by providing advice, financial support, a place to stay and other assistance.

"SAAP is a joint Federal and State Government support program targeting people who are homeless or at risk of homelessness through a range of accommodation and support services.

"The following organisations provide emergency and crisis accommodation for young people:

•The Salvation Army
•Melbourne City Mission - Stopover Youth Refuge
•Western Region Accommodation Program
•St Vincent de Paul Society - Housing and Homeless Services
•Crisis Help Network Melbourne Homeless Services  - see the section under 'Crisis Accommodation Melbourne and Homeless Accommodation Victoria'

"The Victorian Government's Department of Human Services provides housing and support for those most in need. Their website provides links to support services and assistance programs for people who are homeless, at risk of homelessness or escaping family violence."

http://www.youthcentral.vic.gov.au/Housing+&+Accommodation/Homelessness/

The illegal immigrants that the Green and the ALP smuggle across the borders take up valuable services and funding that could go to homeless and impoverished Australian victims.

Quote:


Do you know why?

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:


For the same reasons the knuckleheads are bleating on about here. SAAP homeless services are for residents of NSW.

I've even turned back Victorian or Queensland residents for the same reason. They're meant to be in NSW for a certain period - I think it's 2 months.

Homeless services are not designed for travellers or backpackers or illegal immigrants. They're for people in crisis.

You also need to pay for your board, so you need - at the very least - a Centrelink income.

Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to Centrelink benefits.

The service I work for is a homeless accommodation service. It's the same as any other homeless service - a charity run by the large churches and funded by the NSW/Federal governments under the SAAP program.

These services are coordinated, meet regularly, and are aware of the populations they serve. They run longer-term supported housing programs, and these are also restricted to Australian residents.

There are some very small refugee programs also run by the churches and some volunteer groups. To my knowledge, the funding for these programs is miniscule. They run off goodwill and the scent of an oily rag.

If I knew of any large, well-funded immigrant program that houses hundreds of illegal boat people, I'd try to get our clients in there too.

With the exception of detention centres, I don't.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:29pm:


Every new illegal immigrant accepted into this country is a potential new vote for the Greens or Labor - didn't you know that? They get Centrelink, all sorts of welfare and other assistance so they never need to work again. Why wouldn't they vote for the Greens or Labor?