adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 5:28pm:



nah  angle iron is more your iamtheman012 = banned from here for suggesting some women should be bashed up.

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 5:48pm:



It isn't me that tries  to link Abbott with homosexuals and wife bashing, so tell me who has serious issues?

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:31pm:




I trust thats meant for your lefty mates as well..


as it is I find Carr really steps out of line..I do not recall rudd having a say on everything that didnt involve Foreign Affairs.

this guy say what he likes about everything.

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:31pm:



Feel free to point out personal abuse from me.

Slipper staffer makes complaint against Carr, Joyce

The man who launched a sexual harassment case against Speaker Peter Slipper has made a formal complaint about comments made by political heavyweights Bob Carr and Barnaby Joyce.

James Ashby's lawyers this afternoon lodged a formal complaint of victimisation with the Human Rights Commission over remarks made by the senators on Twitter and to the media.

The complaint cites a tweet from Senator Carr on May 5 which said: "This Ashby seems more rehearsed than a kabuki actor."

The following day, Senator Joyce told the media: "If you are going to play marriage guidance counsellor, you've got to hear both sides of the story".

He went on to describe Mr Ashby as "only slightly less dodgy than Slipper".

Michael Harmer, representing Mr Ashby, says Senator Carr and Senator Joyce are using their high office to demean their client, possibly for political ends.

"In direct response to our client making such allegations (against Mr Slipper), our client has been subject to repeated public attacks on his reputation, integrity and credibility by senior politicians," he said.

Mr Harmer says public attacks on people who complain of sexual harassment will discourage other people from coming forward.

He says Senator Carr's tweet was republished in full in News Limited's Sunday newspapers, exposing the comment to about five million readers.

Mr Harmer says the Foreign Minister was also given the opportunity on ABC TV's Lateline program to withdraw his remarks, but declined.

Brushed aside
But on tonight's 7.30 program, Senator Carr brushed aside the complaint against him.

He said Mr Ashby had contact with several Coalition figures before he made the complaint against Mr Slipper.

"In Australia and around the world there are a lot more serious cases of infringement of human rights than this," he told 7.30.

"Let me say again, sexual harassment is serious. Precisely because of that, if there is a complaint, take it to the authorities.

"Don't have a meeting with your employer's political opponent on three occasions."

Last month, Mr Ashby launched a civil claim under the Fair Work Act against the Commonwealth and Mr Slipper in which he alleges he was continually harassed from the start of his time working for the Speaker.

He says it is clear the Speaker only hired him to pursue a sexual relationship.

Mr Slipper also faces separate criminal allegations that he misused government Cabcharge vouchers.

He has stepped aside as Speaker of the Federal Parliament to defend himself and denies any wrongdoing.

'List of problems'
The Commonwealth Government Solicitor has raised a lengthy list of problems with Mr Ashby's claims against Mr Slipper.

In a statement, the Commonwealth Solicitor says Mr Ashby took no steps to try and resolve the issues and did not warn anyone from the Commonwealth that he intended to start proceedings for damages.

The statement notes Mr Ashby's application was widely reported on websites within hours of it being lodged.

It also points out Mr Ashby has dropped some of the allegations in the original application.

The Commonwealth rejects Mr Ashby's argument that he took no reasonable steps to resolve the issue because the matter was urgent and involves victimisation.

It sets out a list of alternative ways Mr Ashby could have handled his complaint.

A directions hearing will be held in court on Friday.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-17/slipper-staffer-makes-complaint-against-ca...

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
Sir Walter Scott (1771 - 1832), Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17.

This will not end well for those involved???

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:


I've never heard this. What's the whole story?

Anyway, I think that this shows that it wasn't a Coalition conspiracy, and shame on Carr and Joyce for making such insensitive comments about someone who has potentially faced untold stress, trauma and depression. Who knows what's he suffered.

john_g wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:


He still sounds like a whiny little bitch after a payout from where ever he can get one.
He wasn't raped, he wasn't assaulted, he wasn't touched up..he was hit on by an old fella and instead of knocking him back he did nothing until he was approached by the Liberal Party to knife Slipper...he is a whiny little bitch with a crush on Fifi Pyne.

adelcrow wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 7:26pm:


He was treated badly after knocking him back, though. Slipper kept persisting after he was knocked back, and said that Ashby could not go on Sydney cruises. Who knows what else happened? A little compassion wouldn't go astray, would it, adel?

Also, being that Ashby is taking action against Barnaby Joyce, I don't think that it is a Coalition conspiracy.