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Reply #15 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Does that include middle class welfare?

Like?

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Age Pensions

Tax breaks for companies

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Should we just have random drug testing of all the population and anyone with drugs in their system are tasered on the spot.

Nice to know that the middle class has been expanded to include entire companies, all politicians regardless of personal wealth and of course those free-loading bastards the retired pensioner; most of which would be surprised to learn about their social and financial upgrade.

Not much of a deep thinker, are ya?

Goes with the thinking of the original poster.

Drug testing for Welfare

All welfare.

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Reply #16 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:51pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Millions of dollars of welfare payments ending up in the hands of drug dealers.
Is it time we introduce drug testing for welfare recipients?

Just legalise drugs and they can declare their incomes and get off the dole.

Piercings could be deducted as legitimate work uniforms.

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Reply #17 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

All people on the dole should present at the dole office in a fit condition to obtain work right then and there.

Turn up dirty, dressed like a freak, face full of metal, under the influence etc and lose you payments.

They used to when it was the CES and they would get sent to an interview too, and more than likely score a job.

Times have a changed.

A client could turn up to the Sarina Russo office dressed 'ready for work' for four years and still not score an interview.

Why waste people's time just because they have plenty of it?

The question to ask is, why cant the job agencies match clients with employers?

Job agencies are, going by my short but painful experience a few years ago, pretty much useless.

You go there, they say “geez not much work around” and bingo, you get the dole because you turned up.

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Drug testing for welfare. Reply #18 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:52pm ____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm: Goes with the thinking of the original poster. Drug testing for Welfare All welfare. Not really, at least you're in there trying Only a socialist considers are tax cut as welfare, rather than a tax cut.
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Reply #19 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:56pm

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Does that include middle class welfare?

Like?

Baby Bonus.

Age Pensions

Tax breaks for companies

Political perks

etc etc etc

Should we just have random drug testing of all the population and anyone with drugs in their system are tasered on the spot.

Nice to know that the middle class has been expanded to include entire companies, all politicians regardless of personal wealth and of course those free-loading bastards the retired pensioner; most of which would be surprised to learn about their social and financial upgrade.

Not much of a deep thinker, are ya?

Goes with the thinking of the original poster.

Drug testing for Welfare

All welfare.

We're randomly drug tested at work - its part of US workplace culture.
I don't see the problem.

You want your tax money to be going to people who wouldn't spend it on drugs.
Hence randomly drugs test them.

The only people who would have a problem with it are those who do drugs.

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Reply #20 - May 17^th, 2012 at 12:57pm

FriYAY wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

Job agencies are, going by my short but painful experience a few years ago, pretty much useless.

You go there, they say “geez not much work around” and bingo, you get the dole because you turned up.

Which is a different experience to my partner.

She walked in to a job agency and was being interviewed by an employer within half an hour and employed within 4 hours. She continued to use job agencies over the years always finding permanent positions within a few days or at most weeks.

Believe it or not, some people are employable and some are not and never will be. Why do you think we have to import labor when we still have hundreds of thousands of people on the dole.

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Reply #22 - May 17^th, 2012 at 1:04pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:56pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:38pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:32pm:

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

Does that include middle class welfare?

Like?

Baby Bonus.

Age Pensions

Tax breaks for companies

Political perks

etc etc etc

Should we just have random drug testing of all the population and anyone with drugs in their system are tasered on the spot.

Nice to know that the middle class has been expanded to include entire companies, all politicians regardless of personal wealth and of course those free-loading bastards the retired pensioner; most of which would be surprised to learn about their social and financial upgrade.

Not much of a deep thinker, are ya?

Goes with the thinking of the original poster.

Drug testing for Welfare

All welfare.

We're randomly drug tested at work - its part of US workplace culture.
I don't see the problem.

You want your tax money to be going to people who wouldn't spend it on drugs.
Hence randomly drugs test them.

The only people who would have a problem with it are those who do drugs.

Do you drink coffee?

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Reply #23 - May 17^th, 2012 at 1:07pm

I don't know about Australia, but it was a bit less stringent in the UK.

I took a year out between school and university and had a 6 month period where I wasn't doing much (I was only 19).

My parents told me to collect unemployment benefit because they had spent years paying in taxes so we should get stuff back.

I went along and then Blair brought in that rule that you had to prove you were looking for work.
I was a bit more honest after a while and said "Look mate I am going to university in Sept, I don't want to be looking for a job now because it's bloody July now"

His response? "Yeah fair enough, well put down you are looking and will attend 3 interviews between now and sept. That way they'll still pay you"

Boom. I didn't get much from memory though - it wasn't exactly lottery winning stuff!

So in my experience, it's a complete rort anyway!! Grin

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Reply #24 - May 17^th, 2012 at 1:07pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:57pm:

You would wipe out most of greens support base if that had to get a job to support their habit.

Dumbarse Liberals are missing out taxing Greens that do drugs.

Dumbarse Liberals are missing out taxing the black economy.

Dumbarse Liberals are just dumbarses.
Understandable when Abbott is an economic illiterate.

Monkeys see, Monkeys do.

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Reply #25 - May 17^th, 2012 at 1:08pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Millions of dollars of welfare payments ending up in the hands of drug dealers.
Is it time we introduce drug testing for welfare recipients?

Just legalise drugs and they can declare their incomes and get off the dole.

Piercings could be deducted as legitimate work uniforms.

Excellent idea, we need new innovative clean green industry to create jobs.

No CERT III in drug selling studies or traineeships to get the job though. Keep it simple.

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Reply #26 - May 17^th, 2012 at 4:59pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:08pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Millions of dollars of welfare payments ending up in the hands of drug dealers.
Is it time we introduce drug testing for welfare recipients?

Just legalise drugs and they can declare their incomes and get off the dole.

Piercings could be deducted as legitimate work uniforms.

Excellent idea, we need new innovative clean green industry to create jobs.

No CERT III in drug selling studies or traineeships to get the job though. Keep it simple.

Methods and chemicals used to make drugs are not exactly environmental.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Drug testing for welfare. Reply #27 - May 17^th, 2012 at 4:59pm If I was on welfare I would want to be drugged out all the time so I cant see the problem.
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Reply #28 - May 17^th, 2012 at 6:08pm

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:26pm:

Millions of dollars of welfare payments ending up in the hands of drug dealers.
Is it time we introduce drug testing for welfare recipients?

The Government are the dealers, they just want to bring it out in the open and tax it. Western Governments have been pushing vice on Aboriginal peoples and working class whites around the world since the world began...its the oldest scam in the book. Get the Vice industries out of our communities and tell them to choke on their own filth. Cool

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26563 Australia	Re: Drug testing for welfare. Reply #29 - May 17^th, 2012 at 6:12pm Didnt they try this in america and it costed more to do the testing than it would have cost just to pay ppl? SOB
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