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Ocean Temperature Made Queensland Floods Worse.
May 16th, 2012 at 1:52pm
 
Ocean temperature made Queensland floods worse: study
Nicky Phillips
May 16, 2012

Abnormally high ocean temperatures off the coast of northern Australia contributed to the extreme rainfall that flooded three-quarters of Queensland over the summer of 2010-11, scientists report.   Sad

A Sydney researcher, Jason Evans, ran a series of climate models and found above average sea surface temperatures throughout December 2010 increased the amount of rainfall across the state by 25 per cent on average.

While the study did not look at the cause of ocean warming in the region, a physical oceanographer, Matthew England, said climate change could not be excluded as a possible driver of this extreme rainfall event.   Wink


Between December 23 and 28 many places experienced up to 400 millimetres of rain in a few days. "That [means] 100 millimetres of rain was attributable to sea surface temperatures," said Dr Evans, a future fellow at the University of NSW's Climate Change Research Centre.

While the flooding occurred during one of the strongest La Nina events on record it was insufficient to produce the extreme rainfall recorded, he said.

The effect of the high sea surface temperatures coupled with the impact of a La Nina, both of which are associated with above average rainfall over eastern Australia, plus tropical cyclone Tasha, combined to create an extreme weather event, he said.

The resulting floods stretched across 1.3 million square kilometres all the way to Brisbane, caused billions of dollars in damage and killed 35 people.   Sad

Matthew England, who was not involved in the study, said ocean temperatures off northern Australia were the highest on record at the time of the Queensland floods.

"While the La Nina event played a big role in this record ocean warmth, so too did the long-term warming trend over the past 50 years," Professor England, the co-director of the UNSW Climate Change Research Centre, said.

To measure the extent high sea surface temperature contributed to the rainfall, Dr Evans used a regional climate model to compare the effect of the 2010 December sea surface temperatures with the sea surface temperatures from previous La Nina events.

"All the simulations produced high rainfall, but only the simulations with the high sea surface temperatures [from December 2010] were able to produce extreme precipitation," said Dr Evans, whose findings are published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Warmer sea surface temperatures increase the amount of moisture transferred from the ocean to the atmosphere.

"If you've got the right winds they carry this moisture to land, and [because] land is hotter than the ocean during the day it will cause convection and rain," Dr Evans said.

While both simulations underestimated the amount of rain that fell in Queensland in December 2010, the model that used the higher sea surface temperatures came closest to the rainfall recorded in the region.

"The model doesn't replicate the observations perfectly but it clearly shows what we saw, which was from Cairns to south-east QLD all [regions] received abnormally high precipitation," he said.

If increases in sea surface temperatures can be attributed to global warming, the probability of La Nina events producing extreme rainfall in the future would also rise, he said.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/environment/weather/ocean-temperature-made-queensland-floods-worse--study-20120516-1ypvy.html#ixzz1v07Q4iHa
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Reply #1 - May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm
 
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.

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Reply #2 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:05pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.



So what caused the massive QLD floods that saw houses washed into the oceans around 1900?

The massive 1956 floods in the MDB were surpassed only by the 1896 floods....what caused those?

What about the 71, 73 and the masssive 1974 floods, what caused those?
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:07pm
 
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.



So what caused the massive QLD floods that saw houses washed into the oceans around 1900?

The massive 1956 floods in the MDB were surpassed only by the 1896 floods....what caused those?

What about the 71, 73 and the masssive 1974 floods, what caused those?


Not more rainfall, but a lack of flood proofing infrastructure such as dams, and building restrictions.
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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.



So what caused the massive QLD floods that saw houses washed into the oceans around 1900?

The massive 1956 floods in the MDB were surpassed only by the 1896 floods....what caused those?

What about the 71, 73 and the masssive 1974 floods, what caused those?


Not rainfall, but a lack of flood proofing infrastructure such as dams, and building restrictions.


Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

Oh no, not rainfall, it was magic water.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:15pm
 
1909

3rd December: Cairns: Heavy rain; 575 points recorded during 24 hours previous to 9 a.m. Mulgrave River in flood; tramway bridge submerged; traffic beyond Mulgrave suspended. All creeks in district bankers; Barron and Stony Creek Falls in flood.


25th to 28th December: Phenomenal rainfall over the watershed of the Brisbane River. Mary River at Gympie in flood; highest level reached, 48 feet 9 inches, or 20 feet 9 inches above the decking of the Channon-street bridge.



WOW!!!!

And not a fear monger in sight!!

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FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:15pm:
1909

3rd December: Cairns: Heavy rain; 575 points recorded during 24 hours previous to 9 a.m. Mulgrave River in flood; tramway bridge submerged; traffic beyond Mulgrave suspended. All creeks in district bankers; Barron and Stony Creek Falls in flood.


25th to 28th December: Phenomenal rainfall over the watershed of the Brisbane River. Mary River at Gympie in flood; highest level reached, 48 feet 9 inches, or 20 feet 9 inches above the decking of the Channon-street bridge.



WOW!!!!

And not a fear monger in sight!!





And if the sea temps then had been the same as now, rather than cooler, the flood would of been worse.




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____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:27pm:
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:15pm:
1909

3rd December: Cairns: Heavy rain; 575 points recorded during 24 hours previous to 9 a.m. Mulgrave River in flood; tramway bridge submerged; traffic beyond Mulgrave suspended. All creeks in district bankers; Barron and Stony Creek Falls in flood.


25th to 28th December: Phenomenal rainfall over the watershed of the Brisbane River. Mary River at Gympie in flood; highest level reached, 48 feet 9 inches, or 20 feet 9 inches above the decking of the Channon-street bridge.



WOW!!!!

And not a fear monger in sight!!





And if the sea temps then had been the same as now, rather than cooler, the flood would of been worse.




LOL, coulda, woulda, shoulda.
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Reply #8 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:30pm
 
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:13pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:07pm:
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.



So what caused the massive QLD floods that saw houses washed into the oceans around 1900?

The massive 1956 floods in the MDB were surpassed only by the 1896 floods....what caused those?

What about the 71, 73 and the masssive 1974 floods, what caused those?


Not more rainfall, but a lack of flood proofing infrastructure such as dams, and building restrictions.


Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

Oh no, not rainfall, it was magic water.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha


So you are saying that no dams were built from 1974 to now. I can think of a couple of very big ones, not to mention all the on-farm storage developed as well.

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Reply #9 - May 16th, 2012 at 3:41pm
 
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:29pm:
____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:27pm:
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:15pm:
1909

3rd December: Cairns: Heavy rain; 575 points recorded during 24 hours previous to 9 a.m. Mulgrave River in flood; tramway bridge submerged; traffic beyond Mulgrave suspended. All creeks in district bankers; Barron and Stony Creek Falls in flood.


25th to 28th December: Phenomenal rainfall over the watershed of the Brisbane River. Mary River at Gympie in flood; highest level reached, 48 feet 9 inches, or 20 feet 9 inches above the decking of the Channon-street bridge.



WOW!!!!

And not a fear monger in sight!!





And if the sea temps then had been the same as now, rather than cooler, the flood would of been worse.




LOL, coulda, woulda, shoulda.




No, basic science.
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Reply #10 - May 16th, 2012 at 5:57pm
 
There will never be a direct link between climate change and individual weather events, for the same reason you can never establish a direct link between smoking and individual cancer cases.
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wonder if they were using those dodgy Russian figures??? well you never know do you?
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Reply #12 - May 16th, 2012 at 6:39pm
 
cods wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 6:06pm:
wonder if they were using those dodgy Russian figures??? well you never know do you?


well it was based on a 'mode'. And we know what the accuracy of climate models is... 0%.

Climate models have all failed on the most basic test of a model which is to retrofit it onto historical patterns. These models are so bad they cant even 'predict' YESTERDAYS weather.
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That's because they are climate models, not weather models.
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Reply #14 - May 16th, 2012 at 6:42pm
 
FriYAY wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 3:05pm:
Doctor Jolly wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 1:55pm:
And so it beings.

We are now entering the phase where direct links between climate change and extreme weather will become more common.

To me its a no brainer that warm oceans means more rainfall.  Its been happening every time we have El Nino.  More warmth = more rainfall to the tropics.



So what caused the massive QLD floods that saw houses washed into the oceans around 1900?

The massive 1956 floods in the MDB were surpassed only by the 1896 floods....what caused those?

What about the 71, 73 and the masssive 1974 floods, what caused those?

i WONDER IF THEY WERE EL NINO YEARS?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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