I think China has a somewhat over inflated opinion of itself. In good times and in bad we always stick with those we can trust and those that have put in the hard yards with us in the past.

By all means buy our resources and fill our $2 shops with cheap trinkets, but when it comes to security, we'll stick with the US.




AUSTRALIA cannot juggle its relationships with the United States and China indefinitely and must choose a ''godfather'' to protect it, according to a prominent Chinese defence strategist.

The warning by Song Xiaojun, a former senior officer of the People's Liberation Army, comes after Foreign Minister Bob Carr was told by his Chinese counterpart that Australia's close military alliance with the US was a throwback to the Cold War era.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/chinese-official-its-us-or-america-2012051...

Im on Chinas side

Chinese

adelcrow wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 4:45pm:



Not in the least bit surprised.

Pity the Tibetans don't share your view on living under a chinese communist dictatorship as being the preferred option.

BigOl64 wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 5:00pm:


Not totally true. China invades your country and stay if they think they own you (think Tibet, Taiwan and islands in South China Sea). They're stuck with 19th century colonial attitudes and still think of an empire. The other time they invade you is if they think they can effect regime change and if for political reasons they like the idea, which isn't much different from what Western powers have done over the ages.

A frequent claim made by Mainland Chinese is that they've never invaded a country they didn't own. That isn't true. They invaded Vietnam during the Ming Dynasty to help the Tran dynasty re-establish itself on the throne. Yeah ......... regime change. For some reason they didn't like the Ho dynasty. It sounds like the war in Iraq.

A few weeks ago there was a movie on the SBS channel (don't know if you have that in Queensland) about Vietnamese boat people trying to escape the Communist regime after the Vietnam War. It was called "Journey from the Fall" (2006). A major theme in the movie was a legend about Le Loi, the leader of Vietnamese resistance forces against the Ming Dynasty. He was given a magical sword by some mythical figure and had to return it after he had defeated the Chinese. According to one of the main characters in the movie, Le Loi didn't return the sword, so there was no peace. Historically, Le Loi's dynasty went on for several generations.

I thought wow, Vietnam defeated two superpowers of two different eras. The Ming Dynasty didn't succeed in taking over Vietnam and the Americans failed to defeat the Communists. The legend itself might have been trying to draw parallels between the two wars, as well as the journey the refugees took in escaping the Communist regime.

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 6:30am:


I don't know where you get the idea I was "denigrating others" from my comment about Queensland. "Denigration of others" is what I see you doing more often on these forums, so basically your response here doesn't deserve any respect. Your hostility was unprovoked. You have to be paranoid to assume every time someone mentions Queensland it's an insult. Your post here is far more denigrating than anything I said about Queensland and what I think is "stupid" is when someone instinctively and impulsively belittles others, becomes irrationally hostile even when unprovoked and acts like everyone who crosses him is "beneath him."

Whatever I said about Queensland was relatively mild (wasn't even a statement, just said if you had SBS you'd have been able to see it) and your response was simply inappropriate. It never went far enough to call for such a hostile, over-reactive response from you.

Look at yourself in the mirror. Why don't you start making valid points without "denigrating" others?

Mnemonic wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:10am:



Asking if the state of Queensland had SBS, yeah nothing in that at all. 

If you think that calling an action (not you personally I might add) 'stupid' is a hostile over reaction then you need to get out more and interact with people other than your parents.