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I have a bit of mechanical knowledge. Electric cars will need a LOT less servicing. Electric motors are about 80% efficient.
Petrol/diesel are less than 30 % efficient.

inefficiencies are a LOT worse than they sound. a motor that is 100% efficient would be astoundingly reliable. Freakishly so.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:31am:


Efficiency is not connected to reliability. (Except for in the case of improving efficiency where reliability can suffer. This is because any machine being pushed closer to its limit often comes at a cost of reliability. Car engines are intentionally turned to be less efficient for the purpose of increasing reliability) 

A motor that is 100% efficient (despite breaking the laws of thermodynamics) would not be more reliable.    

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Do one is denying anyone the use of electric cars. It is the false advertising that they are better for the environment when at this point in time they are not. Likewise there is no better way to power a mobile phone then by electricity. Not so with cars.

Real environmentalist know that to make the world better we have to clean up the entire system. Fake "look how good I am" environmentalist jump on any idea if it shows an improvement in one area, even if it makes a bigger mess somewhere else.

Real Progress means moving in the right direction. Not moving an any direction just for the sake of it. 

Quantum wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:


where is the evidence that they are not better for the environment ?? The dude spelt it our loud and clear on the review of the Nissan Leaf but you just want to ignore the truth.

when was the last time you got the emissions checked on your car ? Are you not concerned that your car is spewing out more than it should ? Of course you are not but lets bag indirect emissions from electric cars as an excuse not to use them whilst ignoring obvious and harmful emissions from fossil fool vehicles

No one in Victoria checks emissions on their cars but somehow emissions are a huge issue with electric cars but not with fossil fool cars !!

why is that ??

Sir lastnail wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:


Two mistakes.

Mistake 1: The guy on the video is no expert. He is a TV personality. He showed his "I just read a script" moments when he ignored the energy cost of mining coal from his numbers, as well as his ridiculous claim of flat torque of an electric motor. He doesn't know anything about cars. You think he knows what he is talking about because you obviously know less about cars than he does. It wouldn't surprise me if Nissan pay for the review and feed him his incorrect numbers

Mistake 2: I just changed my Catalytic Converter (do you even know what that is?) 3 weeks ago because it is several years old and they have a limited life span. I didn't have to, and my car would breeze through it's rego inspection with the old one. I did it for the very thing your accusing me of not caring about. You could not possibly have chosen a worse time to make your baseless accusations.

Sir lastnail wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

I think Quantum has the right to be confused.

We live in a world where even Abbotts supporters admit he is telling untruths- and the MSM is letting him get away with it- about the NBN rememeber!

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:31am:


you also need to consider the inefficiency of the transmission or gear box and drive train. This really chews up power. An internal combustion engine that can produce 130 BHP may only produce 80 BHP at the wheels. In fact someone once pointed out that only 1% of all energy that goes into making a fossil fool car run is converted into moving the car !!