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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #75 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:08pm This is my country.
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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #76 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:09pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 1:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 1:29pm:

A sixth people smuggling boat has been intercepted this week by the Navy carrying 84 people. At this rate, Gillard will be kicking ordinary Aussies out of their own homes to accomodate these country-shopping illegal immigrants! Both Gillard and Bowen must hang their heads in shame over their complete failure to secure our borders. One must wonder when will Labor wake up and realise that:

(a) The Labor Party created this mess
(b) There is no one
to blame for this mess other than themselves
(c) The only option available to them is to resurrect the Pacific Solution in order to smash the business model of people smugglers

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/navy-intercepts-sixth-boat-in-a-week/story...

But the pacific solution didnt work did it?

Do you call them illegal immigrants just to piss uncle meat off?

SOB

No they bang on with this rubbish because they are incapable of individual intelligent thought

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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #77 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:12pm

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:06pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

I would retract that unless you want to be known as a fool.

MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

Would you like to bet a ton on that?

hmmm.... tough one...

My bet is on MOTR. Come in spinner!

But you are a loser.

How do you figure that.

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #78 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:14pm I really don't know why people aren't buying my pies
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angeleyes Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 615	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #79 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:15pm No they bang on with this rubbish because they are incapable of individual intelligent thought Do you think we should look after our own, pensioners, people that need operations, dental care, the down and out, people on DVA or the scum that pay $1,000s to gate crash our country?
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Reply #80 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:18pm

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

No they bang on with this rubbish because they are incapable of individual intelligent thought

Do you think we should look after our own, pensioners, people that need operations, dental care, the down and out, people on DVA or the scum that pay $1,000s to gate crash our country?

You can keep complaining or you can support my company. We make fresh pies from the processed whole bodies of immigrants and asylum seekers.
It keeps down their numbers and of course helps the pie community.
Can I send you a sample pie?

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angeleyes Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 615	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #81 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:18pm MOTR have you checked out this link or do you think you know it all? http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm
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Reply #82 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:20pm

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:07pm:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm

Interesting but it doesn't make any mention of the points I am supposed to have lost over. Hardly surprising.

BUT it does mention this:

Quote:

The Humanitarian Program has two important functions:

the onshore protection/asylum component fulfils Australia's international obligations by offering protection to people already in Australia who are found to be refugees according to the Refugees Convention

the offshore resettlement component expresses Australia's commitment to refugee protection by going beyond these obligations and offering resettlement to people overseas for whom this is the most appropriate option.

My emphasis.

In other words, Australia only has obligations to asylum seekers who reach our shores. We are OBLIGED to take them. For anyone overseas seeking asylum, we grant it out of our own good nature. We have NO OBLIGATION to take anyone from overseas.

I hadn't realised this important point. That puts quite a different spin on it doesn't it? Quite different to what you righties and your shock jocks present.

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Reply #83 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:21pm

MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:12pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:08pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:06pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:58pm:

I would retract that unless you want to be known as a fool.

MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

Would you like to bet a ton on that?

hmmm.... tough one...

My bet is on MOTR. Come in spinner!

But you are a loser.

How do you figure that.

I put it down to wishful thinking.

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angeleyes Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 615	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #84 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:24pm Deary me Gist, here was me giving you credit for having half a brain. Check out the numbers in the box under Humanitarian Program grants by category 2006–07 to 2010–11 re how many we take per year. You are ok with numbers I take it.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #85 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:27pm Australians are an oppressed occupied and invaded people, we have no obligations to our invaders or our occupiers...they are illegally colonizing our country.
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #86 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:28pm corporate_whitey wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:27pm: Australians are an oppressed occupied and invaded people, we have no obligations to our invaders or our occupiers...they are illegally colonizing our country. Yeah those white fellas really f'd shyt up around here
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Reply #87 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:34pm

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:24pm:

Deary me Gist, here was me giving you credit for having half a brain.

Check out the numbers in the box under Humanitarian Program grants by category 2006–07 to 2010–11 re how many we take per year. You are ok with numbers I take it.

Yep, quite comfortable. We're obliged under our international agreements to take people who arrive on our shores (whether by plane or boat). We're under NO obligation to take people overseas. Read it, it's in that same fact sheet. I even quoted it for you above.

If you want the overseas numbers to remain constant then you'd best show more support for asylum seekers.

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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #88 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:37pm

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:24pm:

Deary me Gist, here was me giving you credit for having half a brain.

Check out the numbers in the box under Humanitarian Program grants by category 2006–07 to 2010–11 re how many we take per year. You are ok with numbers I take it.

I'm looking at it. The number of refugees we accept from overseas has remained at 6000, totally unaffected by the rise in the number of onshore applicants.

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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #89 - May 12^th, 2012 at 9:44pm

MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

angeleyes wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:24pm:

Deary me Gist, here was me giving you credit for having half a brain.

Check out the numbers in the box under Humanitarian Program grants by category 2006–07 to 2010–11 re how many we take per year. You are ok with numbers I take it.

I'm looking at it. The number of refugees we accept from overseas has remained at 6000, totally unaffected by the rise in the number of onshore applicants.

Quite right, thanks for that correction MOTR. I'm looking at the SHP row. Damned confusing.

Regardless, if angeleyes wants the numbers in any category to remain steady then she should lobby the government.

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