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Reply #45 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:18pm

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

By the way, Uncle Meat, these country-shopping, queue-jumping illegal immigrants ...

They are not queue jumpers. People don't join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

And, they are not illegal immigrants. Not sure why you don't understand these facts.

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

One does not join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

Your inability to understand this simple fact is quite astonishing.

You're a fool. Cheesy

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Reply #46 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:19pm

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

Show me. Where does one apply? I want to see the forms that need to be filled. I want to see the desk where I join the queue. Where are they? Can you show them to me? Perhaps a list of people who are in this queue. Can you show me that?

You're a fool too.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62417 Here Gender:	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #47 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:20pm Re: Labor has lost control of our borders None of them get anywhere near our boarder. In my view boarder protection is not about keeping legitimate refugees out.
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Reply #48 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:23pm

Dnarever wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:20pm:

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None of them get anywhere near our boarder.

In my view boarder protection is not about keeping legitimate refugees out.

I agree - it's about an orderly process allowing the authorities to decide who is granted asylum and who is not. It's not about having hundreds of people come by the boat load, burn detention centres, assault staff and generaly have a hissy-fit that makes my 2 year old son's tantrums look lame all because they are either refused asylum or their application is taking too long to be determined as far as they are concerned.

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Reply #49 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:23pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

Show me. Where does one apply? I want to see the forms that need to be filled. I want to see the desk where I join the queue. Where are they? Can you show them to me? Perhaps a list of people who are in this queue. Can you show me that?

You're a fool too.

Ah, the white flag of the bigot. Your unconditional surrender is accepted.

Go, and be thou not stoopid forthwith. Angry

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Reply #50 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:24pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:18pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

By the way, Uncle Meat, these country-shopping, queue-jumping illegal immigrants ...

They are not queue jumpers. People don't join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

And, they are not illegal immigrants. Not sure why you don't understand these facts.

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

One does not join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

Your inability to understand this simple fact is quite astonishing.

You're a fool. Cheesy

This was discussed to death in another thread, you obviously weren't listening. The onshore program is run independently of the offshore program. There is no queue.

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Reply #51 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:25pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 7:51pm:

Actually, they aren't part of our immigration program.

Seriously, where are you getting your information from?

"During 2009-10, Australia passed the 750,000 mark in its intake of refugees and humanitarian entrants since nationhood.

"The 13,770 refugee and humanitarian visas issued in 2009-10 were divided between 9,236 offshore refugee and humanitarian visas (the lowest number in eight years) and 4,534 onshore visas (the second highest on record). These included 2,156 onshore visas granted to asylum seekers who entered Australia by boat. "

http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/resources/intakesub/2011-12_IntakeSub.pdf

"Humanitarian Program

"The Humanitarian Program has two important functions:

"the onshore protection/asylum component fulfils Australia's international obligations by offering protection to people already in Australia who are found to be refugees according to the Refugees Convention

"the offshore resettlement component expresses Australia's commitment to refugee protection by going beyond these obligations and offering resettlement to people overseas for whom this is the most appropriate option."

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/60refugee.htm#b

As I said: Boat people, seeking asylum, form part of the Immigration Department's humanitarian program.

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Reply #52 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:25pm

MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:24pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:18pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

By the way, Uncle Meat, these country-shopping, queue-jumping illegal immigrants ...

They are not queue jumpers. People don't join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

And, they are not illegal immigrants. Not sure why you don't understand these facts.

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

One does not join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

Your inability to understand this simple fact is quite astonishing.

You're a fool. Cheesy

This was discussed to death in another thread, you obviously weren't listening. The onshore program is run independently of the offshore program. There is no queue.

Really? I guess you haven't been to Indonesia recently.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #53 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm The number of asylum seekers we accept from Indonesia is independent of the number of boat people processed onshore. Do you get that.
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Reply #54 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

Show me. Where does one apply? I want to see the forms that need to be filled. I want to see the desk where I join the queue. Where are they? Can you show them to me? Perhaps a list of people who are in this queue. Can you show me that?

You're a fool too.

Ah, the white flag of the bigot. Your unconditional surrender is accepted.

Go, and be thou not stoopid forthwith. Angry

No, not a surrender. I just have better things to do than to argue with a quarter-wit who has no comprehension of the difference between fact and fiction. I bet you still think Gillard didn't lie about the carbon tax. You poor, poor fool. Don't worry - you'll be put out of your misery soon enough when Tony Abbott becomes our PM!

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 30295 Gender:	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #55 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:28pm MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm: The number of asylum seekers we accept from Indonesia is independent of the number of boat people processed onshore. Do you get that. You mean the people queueing up to hop on a people smugglers' boat???
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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #56 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:18pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:09pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

By the way, Uncle Meat, these country-shopping, queue-jumping illegal immigrants ...

They are not queue jumpers. People don't join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

And, they are not illegal immigrants. Not sure why you don't understand these facts.

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

One does not join a queue in order to become an asylum seeker.

Your inability to understand this simple fact is quite astonishing.

You're a fool. Cheesy

White flag accepted.

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angeleyes Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 615	Re: Labor has lost control of our borders Reply #57 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:31pm MOTR wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm: The number of asylum seekers we accept from Indonesia is independent of the number of boat people processed onshore. Do you get that. If we have 6,000 illegal boat people in a year that is 6,000 less GENUINE refugees we take.
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Reply #58 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:23pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:19pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:13pm:

Partially correct - THOSE people don't. It's the poor souls who apply through the proper channels who are in queue and usually miss out to those who come by boat. You have a serious inability to sort fact from fiction. But that's what one would expect from a Leftard, so I guess we can't hold it against you and will continue to right your wrongs for you.

Show me. Where does one apply? I want to see the forms that need to be filled. I want to see the desk where I join the queue. Where are they? Can you show them to me? Perhaps a list of people who are in this queue. Can you show me that?

You're a fool too.

Ah, the white flag of the bigot. Your unconditional surrender is accepted.

Go, and be thou not stoopid forthwith. Angry

No, not a surrender. I just have better things to do than to argue with a quarter-wit who has no comprehension of the difference between fact and fiction. I bet you still think Gillard didn't lie about the carbon tax. You poor, poor fool. Don't worry - you'll be put out of your misery soon enough when Tony Abbott becomes our PM!

So far, you've provided no evidence.

I've provided quite a bit.

Let's not change topics (nice try with the carbon tax) and instead, let's see some evidence from you.

We're all waiting ...

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Re: Labor has lost control of our borders
Reply #59 - May 12^th, 2012 at 8:32pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 8:27pm:

No, not a surrender. I just have better things to do than to argue with a quarter-wit who has no comprehension of the difference between fact and fiction. I bet you still think Gillard didn't lie about the carbon tax. You poor, poor fool. Don't worry - you'll be put out of your misery soon enough when Tony Abbott becomes our PM!

What the ...?? CARBON tax? What has the carbon tax got to do with asylum seekers? Are you turning into cods that thinks bleating about the carbon tax is the answer to every question?

I told you to be not stoopid. You're in danger of breaking the terms of the surrender y'know.

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