adelcrow wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:


The 17,000 boat people are costing us a billion dollars per year.

83.5% of them are still on welfare up to 5 years after arriving,we cant do longer term studies because therte were only 4 boat people in detention when labor created this billion dollar per year debacle.

These migrants if they are not citizens they pay a higher tax rate compared to Australians.

Typical of the leftards to say big whoop over a billion dollar per year debacle they created.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:


Interesting numbers. Iran, China, Burma, are all governments that we recognise as oppressive, being from these countries carries an understanding of refugee. Sri Lanka are just recovering from a very long and vicious civil war, Afghanistan are at war as for all intensive purposes is Pakistan. As for the rest it is a good question but the numbers are very small and the report does not identify by which method each demographic arrived. Many of the Indo and Malay men were probably crew on boats.

Not sure of the exact number of over stayers but it is up around the 16 000 mark annually. Some of these are also in detention. You also miss that the numbers are small and though with the current state of affairs where Abbott has betrayed the country and his core beliefs to make a political point may be making the trip a bit more attractive this is not the main cause and the usual ignorance and fear is the driver of such opinion. OH and the bitterness of the loops on the right.

" The number of unauthorised boat arrivals to Australia follows global trends.? In 2001 and 2002, for example, Australia experienced a peak in the number of boat arrivals (more than 5,500 in 2001 and almost 3000 in 2002) as did most of the rest of the world.? Then from 2003, global asylum numbers dropped as the level of global conflict dropped.? But over the last two years, global asylum seeker numbers have increased again.? When comparing 2008 figures with 2007, for example, asylum seeker numbers rose by 122% in Italy, 121% in Norway, 89% in the Netherlands, 70% in Turkey, 53% in Switzerland, 30% in Canada and 20% in France, according to a 2009 UNHCR report.? Yet in the same period, Australia saw only a 19% increase"

http://www.ajustaustralia.com/informationandresources_factsandstatistics.php
http://www.asrc.org.au/media/documents/myths-facts-solutions-summary-sheet.pdf

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 3:44pm:

They are if the Native born people are occupied, have lost control of there own borders and are under invasion...thats a game changer.  Invasion was wrong 200 years ago and its still wrong.  Stop the invasion of Aboriginal lands.

Uncle Meat wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 3:58pm:


I think you're seriously overestimating them, Uncle Meat. I think if you even know the word humanitarianism you're considered one of those noxious bleeding hearts.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:




Now the people from two countries you left of your list

Iraq
Afghanistan


The coalition caused these push factors and so must take responsibility for the consequences of their action. 

cods wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:


Looks like Tony isn't the only happy camper.

____ wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 2:26pm:


Doesn't matter what push factors exist. If you don't have competent policy, you can't secure the border, as we have seen with Labor's failed, illegal, incompetent policies.

Labor really is quite unbelievable on this issue...


Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said this was a consequence of the coalition's refusal to act in the national interest and work with the government to implement offshore processing.

"Late last year, the government approached the opposition in good faith to sit down and discuss what we could do to prevent people from risking their lives at sea," Mr Bowen said.


Labor certainly did not negotiate in "good faith". Gillard did agree offshore processing was required, however the caveat was that the policy would be Malaysia or nothing. That is not a negotiation - it's an ultimatum and a poor one at that because it's the job of Gillard and Bowen to put forward competent policies, not Abbott. The deal with Malaysia was subsequently ruled illegal and even before that ruling by the full bench of the High Court, Abbott refused to support it - with good reason.