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Reply #90 - May 13^th, 2012 at 1:10pm

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

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. You DO realise Oakeshott is not in the Labor party don't you?

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Well he's fooled everyone. He is certainly not representing the people of Port Macquarie, that's for sure!!! He may have the seat but he is not representing the people.

WOW the ignorance stuns me. You know Port Macquarie do you? I lived for a very long time on the mid-north coast and the only politician that ever stood up was Oakeshott. The rest are completely useless national party lap dogs that do nothing but what the liberal party tell them. They have got nothing for the area achieved in the way of infrastructure, jobs and social development. The whole area has gone through decades of neglect as labor won't help and the nat's take them for granted. They have only cared since Oakeshott started rubbing their noses in their own arrogance now he faces the full weight of the lies and deceit of the nationals and their shock jock mates like Haddley.

Well, as the poet says, no worries, then eh? They'll re-elect him with an increased margin. But until then, what to do with this piece of polling news:

Mr Oakeshott's primary support in Lyne, on the NSW mid-north coast, has collapsed from 47.1 per cent at the time of the election to 26 per cent. Mr Windsor's support in New England, which adjoins Lyne, has slumped from 61.9 per cent to 33 per cent

Yes that is fine, my position on the IQ of the electorate is no secret. They both suffering from being in conservative area's who were angry but in the end would rather maintain a conservate presence in their seat even though the have never had nothing but indifferent neglect from the National Party for 40+ years. They will do as they wish and the hung parlament was always death for the independents as they were damed if they did and screwing the country if they didn't.

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Re: Thomson - "I was forced to be with prostitutes".
Reply #91 - May 13^th, 2012 at 2:01pm

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

. You DO realise Oakeshott is not in the Labor party don't you?

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Well he's fooled everyone. He is certainly not representing the people of Port Macquarie, that's for sure!!! He may have the seat but he is not representing the people.

WOW the ignorance stuns me. You know Port Macquarie do you? I lived for a very long time on the mid-north coast and the only politician that ever stood up was Oakeshott. The rest are completely useless national party lap dogs that do nothing but what the liberal party tell them. They have got nothing for the area achieved in the way of infrastructure, jobs and social development. The whole area has gone through decades of neglect as labor won't help and the nat's take them for granted. They have only cared since Oakeshott started rubbing their noses in their own arrogance now he faces the full weight of the lies and deceit of the nationals and their shock jock mates like Haddley.

Well, as the poet says, no worries, then eh? They'll re-elect him with an increased margin. But until then, what to do with this piece of polling news:

Mr Oakeshott's primary support in Lyne, on the NSW mid-north coast, has collapsed from 47.1 per cent at the time of the election to 26 per cent. Mr Windsor's support in New England, which adjoins Lyne, has slumped from 61.9 per cent to 33 per cent

Yes that is fine, my position on the IQ of the electorate is no secret. They both suffering from being in conservative area's who were angry but in the end would rather maintain a conservate presence in their seat even though the have never had nothing but indifferent neglect from the National Party for 40+ years. They will do as they wish and the hung parlament was always death for the independents as they were damed if they did and screwing the country if they didn't.

I don't agree with that highlighted section. Had there been no lie by Gillard on the carbon tax and the ALP not obssessed with eating its own then the Independents may have had a better chance of being re-elected. Had the Independents also supported a no confidence motion in the ALP sooner, they may have also increased their chances. But now they are tied to the sinking ship SS Gillard and will go down to the bottom with the Captain for their inability to serve in the best interests of the people.

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Reply #92 - May 13^th, 2012 at 3:03pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 2:01pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

. You DO realise Oakeshott is not in the Labor party don't you?

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Well he's fooled everyone. He is certainly not representing the people of Port Macquarie, that's for sure!!! He may have the seat but he is not representing the people.

WOW the ignorance stuns me. You know Port Macquarie do you? I lived for a very long time on the mid-north coast and the only politician that ever stood up was Oakeshott. The rest are completely useless national party lap dogs that do nothing but what the liberal party tell them. They have got nothing for the area achieved in the way of infrastructure, jobs and social development. The whole area has gone through decades of neglect as labor won't help and the nat's take them for granted. They have only cared since Oakeshott started rubbing their noses in their own arrogance now he faces the full weight of the lies and deceit of the nationals and their shock jock mates like Haddley.

Well, as the poet says, no worries, then eh? They'll re-elect him with an increased margin. But until then, what to do with this piece of polling news:

Mr Oakeshott's primary support in Lyne, on the NSW mid-north coast, has collapsed from 47.1 per cent at the time of the election to 26 per cent. Mr Windsor's support in New England, which adjoins Lyne, has slumped from 61.9 per cent to 33 per cent

Yes that is fine, my position on the IQ of the electorate is no secret. They both suffering from being in conservative area's who were angry but in the end would rather maintain a conservate presence in their seat even though the have never had nothing but indifferent neglect from the National Party for 40+ years. They will do as they wish and the hung parlament was always death for the independents as they were damed if they did and screwing the country if they didn't.

I don't agree with that highlighted section. Had there been no lie by Gillard on the carbon tax and the ALP not obssessed with eating its own then the Independents may have had a better chance of being re-elected. Had the Independents also supported a no confidence motion in the ALP sooner, they may have also increased their chances. But now they are tied to the sinking ship SS Gillard and will go down to the bottom with the Captain for their inability to serve in the best interests of the people.

You are so off track and need to check yourself as your conservative fervor is overtaking you. The independents were re-elected at the last election strongly after Gillard replaced Rudd. From the moment the election was done Abbott was lining them up to hang the crap on them if he did not get power. After all they were from National seats and they had a right to them. The chances of either ever backing the coalition they had so viciously split with were remote at best but impossible with a fool like Abbott bouncing around angrily. Ever since the election they have faced a media barrage backed by Nationals who want their birthright returned. The Nationals are the singularly most over represented and useless party in this country and they need a serious routing to put them in their place. OH and it is a permit system that transits to an ETS, very different to Tony's preferred Tax that he will give us.

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Reply #93 - May 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

The Independents left the National Party because they considered it a joke that was nothing more then making up the numbers for a Liberal Party that could never beat Labor without them.
So the question is given the unprofessional approach Abbott made to them after the election and the National Party filling the media with abuse and threats towards them why should they have signed up with Abbott?
If the answer is.."to save their own skin" that's probably an indicator of how shallow, tribal and corrupt the two major parties and the Nationals have become and the low expectations of their rusted followers.

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Reply #94 - May 13^th, 2012 at 3:33pm

adelcrow wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

The Independents left the National Party because they considered it a joke that was nothing more then making up the numbers for a Liberal Party that could never beat Labor without them.
So the question is given the unprofessional approach Abbott made to them after the election and the National Party filling the media with abuse and threats towards them why should they have signed up with Abbott?
If the answer is.."to save their own skin" that's probably an indicator of how shallow, tribal and corrupt the two major parties and the Nationals have become and the low expectations of their rusted followers.

Tony Windsor was originally going to be a candidate for the National Party for the seat of New England.....

In the 1991 election, Windsor was first elected to the New South Wales Legislative Assembly as the Member for Tamworth. Windsor was originally a National Party candidate for this seat, but allegations in regards to a drink-driving incident arose on the day of his pre-selection, and the National Party endorsed another candidate.

So now you have the reason WHY he is an Independent!!!!!

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Reply #95 - May 13^th, 2012 at 3:37pm

adelcrow wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

The Independents left the National Party because they considered it a joke

Tony Windsor didn't actually leave the party of his own free-will - rather the National Party endorsed another candidate because of Windsor's drink driving related issues.

That's hardly like walking out on policy issues is it?

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Reply #96 - May 13^th, 2012 at 4:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:37pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

The Independents left the National Party because they considered it a joke

Tony Windsor didn't actually leave the party of his own free-will - rather the National Party endorsed another candidate because of Windsor's drink driving related issues.

That's hardly like walking out on policy issues is it?

Im surprised they would accept his vote given those circumstances and their newly found high moral standards

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Reply #97 - May 13^th, 2012 at 4:26pm

adelcrow wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 4:15pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:37pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

The Independents left the National Party because they considered it a joke

Tony Windsor didn't actually leave the party of his own free-will - rather the National Party endorsed another candidate because of Windsor's drink driving related issues.

That's hardly like walking out on policy issues is it?

Im surprised they would accept his vote given those circumstances and their newly found high moral standards

But they cannot accept his vote on the floor they have set out those moral standards for themselves now. Bet that one haunts them for a long time.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Thomson - "I was forced to be with prostitutes". Reply #98 - May 13^th, 2012 at 4:42pm How can you not accept a vote from the cross benches. Can the sponsor of a bill tell the speaker not to accept a certain vote, or would you have to force one of your own to abstain.
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Reply #99 - May 13^th, 2012 at 4:49pm

I love it when we keep referring to these guys as INDEPENDENTS..no they are not.. they signed up with a PARTY it doesnt really matter which party..

in this case it was labor...

they signed to really really agree with that parties policies.....

since then they have all backed the THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX POLICY..

even though from what I have read.. Oakeshott in particular voted with labor against his constituents prime wishes..

they have still gone along with everything this govt has said or done/not done...

so to call them INDEPENDENTS to my way of thinking couldnt be further from the truth...

they are members of the labor party just not members of the ALP>..

I do not think a real INDEPENDENT would sit back and watch this THOMO saga without having a say...

now Oakeshott is saying ...OMG..

THOMO had better have something good to say when he returns to parliament....

OR WHAT OAKESHOTT????

WHAT WILL YOU DO..???????

I AM SURE THE GOOD PEOPLE OF LYNE ARE MORE THAN INTERESTED.

smirking Windsor...he hasnt been charged with anything.. of course he is innocent...

a good question would have to be...

WHY HASNT HE BEEN CHARGED WITH ANYTHING?

IS SOMEONE BEING PAID. TO HOLD OFF ON THAT HAPPENING UNTIL THE ELECTION...

I would not put anything past this govt...thats my opinion of them

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Reply #100 - May 13^th, 2012 at 4:50pm

MOTR wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

How can you not accept a vote from the cross benches. Can the sponsor of a bill tell the speaker not to accept a certain vote, or would you have to force one of your own to abstain.

he should have been suspended like slipper......

or would that be too fair?

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Reply #101 - May 13^th, 2012 at 5:01pm

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 2:01pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

nairbe wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 11:30am:

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 11:05pm:

Gist wrote on May 12^th, 2012 at 9:49pm:

. You DO realise Oakeshott is not in the Labor party don't you?

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Well he's fooled everyone. He is certainly not representing the people of Port Macquarie, that's for sure!!! He may have the seat but he is not representing the people.

WOW the ignorance stuns me. You know Port Macquarie do you? I lived for a very long time on the mid-north coast and the only politician that ever stood up was Oakeshott. The rest are completely useless national party lap dogs that do nothing but what the liberal party tell them. They have got nothing for the area achieved in the way of infrastructure, jobs and social development. The whole area has gone through decades of neglect as labor won't help and the nat's take them for granted. They have only cared since Oakeshott started rubbing their noses in their own arrogance now he faces the full weight of the lies and deceit of the nationals and their shock jock mates like Haddley.

Well, as the poet says, no worries, then eh? They'll re-elect him with an increased margin. But until then, what to do with this piece of polling news:

Mr Oakeshott's primary support in Lyne, on the NSW mid-north coast, has collapsed from 47.1 per cent at the time of the election to 26 per cent. Mr Windsor's support in New England, which adjoins Lyne, has slumped from 61.9 per cent to 33 per cent

Yes that is fine, my position on the IQ of the electorate is no secret. They both suffering from being in conservative area's who were angry but in the end would rather maintain a conservate presence in their seat even though the have never had nothing but indifferent neglect from the National Party for 40+ years. They will do as they wish and the hung parlament was always death for the independents as they were damed if they did and screwing the country if they didn't.

I don't agree with that highlighted section. Had there been no lie by Gillard on the carbon tax and the ALP not obssessed with eating its own then the Independents may have had a better chance of being re-elected. Had the Independents also supported a no confidence motion in the ALP sooner, they may have also increased their chances. But now they are tied to the sinking ship SS Gillard and will go down to the bottom with the Captain for their inability to serve in the best interests of the people.

You are so off track and need to check yourself as your conservative fervor is overtaking you. The independents were re-elected at the last election strongly after Gillard replaced Rudd. From the moment the election was done Abbott was lining them up to hang the crap on them if he did not get power. After all they were from National seats and they had a right to them. The chances of either ever backing the coalition they had so viciously split with were remote at best but impossible with a fool like Abbott bouncing around angrily. Ever since the election they have faced a media barrage backed by Nationals who want their birthright returned. The Nationals are the singularly most over represented and useless party in this country and they need a serious routing to put them in their place. OH and it is a permit system that transits to an ETS, very different to Tony's preferred Tax that he will give us.

Prior to Gillard/Brown announcing that we must have a carbon tax or perish - despite a promise by Gillard not to introduce one. Once again, you've shown what a narrow view you have of history.

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Reply #102 - May 13^th, 2012 at 5:02pm

cods wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 4:50pm:

MOTR wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

How can you not accept a vote from the cross benches. Can the sponsor of a bill tell the speaker not to accept a certain vote, or would you have to force one of your own to abstain.

he should have been suspended like slipper......

or would that be too fair?

How can you suspend him from the house. Are there any constitutional provisions for this? Slipper has not been suspended from the house, he has stood down as Speaker.

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Reply #104 - May 13^th, 2012 at 5:07pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 5:04pm:

MOTR wrote on May 13^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

How can you suspend him from the house. Are there any constitutional provisions for this?

What about if Police decide to charge him? Could he or should he be suspended then? I think he should be - not sure if there is a rule saying he could be.

I don't believe so.

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